paulo, all your examples are skewed against how to get the best deals. they are not set up as an airline to take a weekly holiday with, taking bags. they are not set up for last minute bookings flying on romantic weekends, thats how they make their money. the last min business trip coming cheapest is more luck than anything. i woulnt take my family on a week long holiday with them, (if i had one), i'd do a package with transfers etc, but for single travellers, or a few mates on a city break / few days sun somewhere, carrying luggage, thats when they come into their own. all you've proven is that its best to shop arond, pretty basic advice really. there are always going to be examples where they are more expensive, on them occassions you dont fly with them. on occassions, like editors, where he has to get somewhere in france, which incidently is pretty short notice from when he is flying, even the plane hating anti ryanair lord of these BB's has conceeded that they are the best and cheapest way to get there. you can play around with dates and flight times all evening (and looks like you have!!), but without knowing them dates, playing around with days here and there, moving airports around i can never know what other deals there were to be had at the time of 'booking' last november i flew to return to lanzarote for 5 days (a near 4hr flight) for £55! which blows me away, and makes to odd negative story, or o'learys brash outbursts easy to put up with. it involved flying out from luton and back to stansted, and paying with my electron card from an abbey account i set up precisely for budget airlines, but it shows whats possible with a little planning, playing with options and days. its the examples you've provided, last min bookings, taking luggage, lost boarding pass charges, that make travel like that mine ridiculously cheap and possible.