http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17993003. Whilst its not surprising to not find a thread on here about these men being found guilty (there really is a collective streak of cowardice running through U75 when it comes to topics like this) I thought the the differing views on whether there was a racial element to this are worth discussing. Two views... Keith Vaz says child sex ring case not a race issue. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-says-child-sex-ring-case-not-race-issue.html Yasmin Alibhai-Brown "discuss these horrors openly or play straight into racists hands" http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...play-straight-into-racists-hands-7723400.html Now of course a lot of you are just going to slate me for starting the thread rather than actually writing anything to do with the issue so no change there but given its prominence in all of the major media outlets this morning it is something that is being discussed in Britain and raises issues for all of us. Those poor girls were rejected by all of us in someways and whilst what these scumbags did to them is fully deserving of punishing I also wonder how much all of us played in creating a situation in which these girls became vulnerable to this sort of thing.