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Plaid Cymru leadership contest 2012

Discussion in 'Wales/Cymru' started by Lovecraft, Dec 22, 2011.

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Who ought to lead the Party Of Wales?

  1. Simon Thomas

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. Elin Jones

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Leanne Wood

    13 vote(s)
    92.9%
  4. Dafydd Ellis-Thomas

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Lovecraft

    Lovecraft New Member

    If I could vote I'd choose Leanne Wood. If anyone could provide a counter-argument, in favour of one of the others, I'd appreciate hearing it.

    Results in on March 15th.
  2. niclas

    niclas Well-Known Member

    If you join Plaid Cymru before Jan 26th you could have a say in who becomes leader... just 75p a month unwaged :)
  3. Lovecraft

    Lovecraft New Member

    I think I'm gonna have to do that. I am gearing myself up for a disappointing result though, Plaid being a "broad church" and all that.
  4. Karac

    Karac Mae Hen Wlad Fy Mamau

    Id vote for Leanne-young Left wing South Wales based-the future of Plaid
  5. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail No English, Straight Patois.

    Result announced this afternoon.
  6. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    Da Iawn Leanne!
    well done :)
    [​IMG]
    :)
  7. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

  8. bendeus

    bendeus Regions, not Rogions!

    Well fucking chuffed. I actually joined Plaid simply to vote for her in the leadership contest.

    They had some shite hack on Radio Wales yesterday asking her if 'she called herself a socialist', thinking obviously that she'd trip her up if she answered 'yes' to owning such a dirty word. "Yes I would", said Leanne, "and I'd imagine a lot of people in Wales would call themselves socialists, too".

    She's really got to get her act together in terms of her presentation, though. She interviews very, very badly, and fails to articulate her policy (which is very decent) very effectively. She'll get shredded unless she improves fast, IMO. Lab and Cons will both be gunning for her and trying to expose weaknesses and inconsistencies.
  9. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    All the reasons why I didnt vote for her!
  10. trampie

    trampie Ba..ba..blacksheep Banned

    Well done Ms Wood.
  11. bendeus

    bendeus Regions, not Rogions!

    Substance over style, '27! :p

    You didn't vote for fucking Elin Jones, did you? :eek:
  12. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    No.
  13. Karac

    Karac Mae Hen Wlad Fy Mamau

    Well done Leanne- i did vote for her-and i think shes the the right person for Plaid.
    People are sick and tired of well heeled "professional " middle+upper class politicians pretending to represent their constituents whilst milking the system-Leanne is unashamedly working-class and has stood with the poor,marginalised and unpopular through thick and thin.
    Ymlaen!
    niclas and ddraig like this.
  14. Chemster

    Chemster “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”

    Changing the deckchairs on the Titanic. Plaid are doomed.
  15. bendeus

    bendeus Regions, not Rogions!

    I wouldn't be so sure
  16. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    Canvassing for local election this week has been very interesting. people seem genuinely sick and tired of 3 main parties and thanks to the leadership election Plaid is very much in people's conscious right now. Could be some very interesting results in Cardiff, especially in labour strongholds like Ely and Caerau. The team in ely have done an awesome job and I wouldnt bet against them pulling off a major shock.

    Far from being doomed I think Plaid may well be about to embark on a rise of SNP proportions.nh
  17. bendeus

    bendeus Regions, not Rogions!

    Don't you think that Pete and Linda in E-C will be taking votes from each other? Couldn't quite work out their decision to stand together.
  18. Chemster

    Chemster “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”

    Hahaha. I was about to take this seriously until I looked at the calendar!

    Good one though, made me laugh! :)
  19. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    What are your reasons for thinking Plaid are doomed?
  20. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    theres 3 seats in Ely, Peter and Linda are well known thru the Ely Villagers and Secret Millionaire, and Neil Branson who is the driving force behind them all. Dont be surprised if they take all 3 seats!!! Would be a miracle, but dont bet against it.

    I dont know who they have standing in Caerau, I think its a guy called Neil Cranham, they asked me to stand.

    As an aside I am standing In Vale elections!
  21. bendeus

    bendeus Regions, not Rogions!

    How many Plaid candidates are standing in the Vale?
  22. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    The vale is a funny council. Plaid have Dinas Powys stictched up and Barry Island, Llantwit is all indepedent,Barry is pretty much labour, but some very winnable seats.
    My ward is and has been for years a labour stonghold and I was thinking of a long term paln to get a seat in 4 years time, but talking to people the last few days I might just have to get my arse in gear and go for it now, people are really looking for an alternative right now!
  23. Chemster

    Chemster “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”

    Their recent performances at the ballot box. The public perception that they are first and foremost a party of Welsh speakers. The hereditary voting for Labour in the South Wales heartlands. Their adherence to an outdated socialist mindset and set of ideals. Their championing of Welsh independence. Lack of any coherent, workable financial policy, especially with regards to the issue of independence.
  24. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055

    I'm not even a Plaid supporter, but this is ill-informed bollocks tbf.
    Col_Buendia and Lock&Light like this.
  25. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    Have you actually read anything about Plaid since 1983?

    The public perception has chnaged dramatically since then. The welsh speaking thing is in the past, people now see Plaid as being a party that gives a shit about community and Wales, the party that secured free prescriptions etc. Keep your head in the sand, but Plaid are making in roads and I think the upcoming elections will be very interesting. Ely Labour is running scared, Plaid posters up everywhere and stories of gangs of kids organising to take them down as soon as they are erected!!!! Any initiatives like kiddy discos that Plaid supporters organise being stamped on, times they are a changing my friend!
  26. poisondwarf

    poisondwarf I have a chance...and it is fat.



    Utter bollocks. Peoples' views have changed and I think I'll be voting plaid.
  27. 1927

    1927 Community Statesman

    I dont think you'll be the only one who will be voting Plaid for the first time! Where abouts are you?
  28. lewislewis

    lewislewis Lumumba Cymru

    Plaid is becoming a community force. We are in it for the long haul. If you have been a Plaid member in the past few decades you are used to disappointment. It won't really matter if there are occasional setbacks. Results will take some time to materialise and the party has never effectively busted the myths and perceptions. They have also not organised in much of Wales, in the south Cardiff and the Valleys are the exceptions really. But this will change under Leanne. In ten years' time the party will be a household name across much of Wales. It will be a gradual process but that's how it has to be.

    My only concern is independence. My heart is for it and always has been. But i'm simply not sure if it's practically possible or practically desirable because of our level of integration with England which is very different to Scotland. But still, Wales obviously needs a strong party representing the national constituency and the national character and it also has to be to the left of Labour. I'm excited to see the independence issue debated and resolved. There should be a conversation nationally about that. Whatever happens though, Plaid is on the map and you can't write off a party in a PR system that gets 18% of the vote and that as 7,000+ members. With Leanne as leader the party could make real gains after the necessary work has been done to rebuild organisation and clarify policies. Most importantly off all Plaid must resist austerity measures, Labour is doing a rubbish job.
  29. poisondwarf

    poisondwarf I have a chance...and it is fat.



    Sunny grangetown.
  30. Chemster

    Chemster “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”

    I read 'The Flotilla Report.' Much hilarity ensued...

    I guess we'll have to agree to differ, the next round of election results will be telling. Plaid have to do something fairly radical to stop the rot, falling behind the Tories in Wales should have been a major wake up call. I just can't see them making progress down south though.

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