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perhaps bicycles should have to pass an MOT once a year too

Discussion in 'transport' started by weepiper, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. weepiper

    weepiper eb slootly non verbal

    ...then maybe people wouldn't be riding their bikes around with life-threatening problems like this. Both these bikes were ridden into the shop and their owners did not mention these issues (the bikes were in for other work)

    pads.jpg

    ^^ disc brake pads worn so far past the point where they should have been replaced that he's been braking metal to metal for some miles and is now braking piston to metal on one side (how? How can people not notice this? It must have been making a godawful racket, and, well, not stopping at all)

    fork.jpg

    He had been riding this bike around for goodness knows how long completely unaware his fork was broken, I discovered it by taking his front wheel off to change a tyre and it fell apart in my hands.
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Turned out nice again

    and perhaps cyclists should have to pass some sort of refresher while their cycles are getting the once-over.
  3. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    At least that guy had something to brake with - I'm regularly gobsmacked at the number of bikes chained-up outside my work with no working breaks whatsoever. Broken cables mostly and some folk have been going to and fro on in this state for ages.
  4. fredfelt

    fredfelt Mostly unknown member

    Perhaps, when looking to figure out how to make our roads safer we should look at what causes the death in injuries on the roads and then take action accordingly.
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  5. rover07

    rover07 has a shining car.

    My back brakes don't work, i just use the front.

    I know i should get them fixed but meh. :D
  6. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Well, "meh" until you need to stop as quickly as possible, and then it'll be "goodbye bicycle!" as you fly over the handlebars and (if you're really lucky) land on your chin, break your jaw and lose a few teeth.
    That'll leave you thinking "I really should have spent the whole 10 minutes it would have taken, to sort my back brake out". Of course, you won't be saying it out loud, because your gob will be wired shut while your jaw heals. :)
  7. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....

  8. dylanredefined

    dylanredefined Not a house elf a tiger

    Just brought a bike off e bay with front suspension and disc brakes suddenly realize no nothing about how to maintain them or even any
    warning signs of impending problems.Anyone know a good site or should Ijust Google this stuff?
  9. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Happened to a mate. Broke his lower jaw into four pieces, lost 3 teeth outright and had another 7 "die". All because he hadn't bothered to put new brake-blocks on. :facepalm: Virtually every visitor to his bedside started the visit with "you twat". We weren't sure what he replied, but I think it might have been "fuck off, you unsympathetic cunts". ;)
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  10. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    tbf, you look at the speed some cyclists go, many of them could stop just using their feet most of the time
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  11. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    but yeah I'm amazed at some of the maintenance issues let slide. Some people seem to listen to their poor things squealing brakes and shrieking chains and think that's just how bicycles sound
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  12. a_chap

    a_chap Welcome, my son. Welcome to The Machine.

    Person who works in a bike shop advocates law impelling people to take their bike to a bike shop.

    No. I know Weeps isn't saying that because of any personal interest. Like an INVESTMENT BANKER. Heaven forbid.

    I'm just saying.

    Actually I'm just drinking, so any comments I make are legally null and void.

    :D
  13. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    Perhaps instead of derailing this one, you could go and wake-up one of the many, many, many other threads on just this subject? The most recent of which won't be too far off the top of the boards as it was only a couple of weeks ago. :)
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  14. gentlegreen

    gentlegreen Nadie espera a la babosa española

    As I was telling my young colleague today as we were putting on our waterproofs, I used to wear shoes with so many holes, they were actually lined with porridge oat bags.
    Part of the reason the soles were so full of holes was that my cheap back wheels were almost always in a state of progressive collapse - one spoke at a time, and I rode them beyond the point where I could rely on just opening up the brake calipers to the maximum setting.
    My tyres, as I only discovered 20 years on when I bought a track pump, were about 70 percent inflated, and I rarely had more than a few functioning gears. :D :oops:
  15. Psychonaut

    Psychonaut Well-Known Member

    but this is the perfect thread for a derailer.
  16. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    I'm sure you see a lot of shit in your bike shop, I doubt it gives the clearest of views. Mostly the clueless or the hyper bikers take them in to shops.
    I don't think I have ever had to take a bike to a shop (apart from when I burst a tyre a few meters from a shop on the way to work - hummm - )
    A lot of bikers do know how to set up and maintain the relatively simple workings of a bike I think. I'm not doing bike shops down, and if I was more hardcore and had more hardcore bikes I think I would be in more often (than never).
  17. a_chap

    a_chap Welcome, my son. Welcome to The Machine.

    Is it too much to ask The Gods for a Downvote button here?
  18. gentlegreen

    gentlegreen Nadie espera a la babosa española

    I was on a ride a while back with your average sensible middle-aged CTC member - "I have my bike professionally serviced" he said. My feeling was he would have been stuck if anything had gone wrong in the meantime - I suspect he would never even adjust the brakes.

    If a dozen people turn up for a CTC ride, I doubt more than a couple of people have a reasonable range of tools - i.e chain breaker or even a 5mm allen key... they assume that someone will be able to help them out. Thankfully a lot of their bikes are remarkably under-used.
  19. friedaweed

    friedaweed I want my dulce de leche now

    I set up a project called re-cycle with the polliss and a group of kids a few years back where we taught them bike maintenance. There are millions of kids bikes in back yards with simple problems preventing them from being ridden. The tip is absolutely full of bikes every weekend with fuck all really wrong with them:mad:
  20. keybored

    keybored

    If they're hydraulic discs they generally need less maintenance than cable rim or discs (although arguably more hassle when they do go wrong). Depends how much/what type of riding you do as to whether you want to learn how to strip and rebuild forks (or disc systems) or just get them serviced by a good LBS if you don't want the trouble.

    Good fork/brake manufacturers tend to be happy to supply very detailed service manuals and spare parts online if you fancy DIY. An adjustable work stand is worthwhile if you plan to be doing a lot of offroad riding and the inevitable repair work it brings.
  21. gentlegreen

    gentlegreen Nadie espera a la babosa española

    There's usually videos on Youtube.
    Bleeding hydraulics is a right faff, but centering and adjusting pads is easier than rim brakes if they're anything like my BB7 mechanicals - the 5mm screws are the same.
  22. Crispy

    Crispy Fond of drink and industry

    This thread has shamed me into cleaning my chain and tightening my brakes.
    When I get the time.
    Honest!
  23. weepiper

    weepiper eb slootly non verbal

    A lot. I mean, a lot. Those two just happened to be comically extreme enough that I was moved to take a photo. Every day, brake pads worn down to the metal so they're ripping the rim to pieces, rims worn to the point where they've exploded under the pressure of the tyre, chains so worn you can't put any pressure through the pedals without it slipping off the teeth suddenly, seatposts up so far past their limit mark there's only an inch clamped in the frame and the frame and/or post has bent... headsets people have assembled themselves with bits upside down, brake blocks they've fitted themselves so they're hitting the tyre... a lot.
  24. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Turned out nice again

    you should get a stock of darwin awards and hand them to these cyclists who are going beyond the call of duty in seeking their timely extinction.
  25. gentlegreen

    gentlegreen Nadie espera a la babosa española

    I actually sort of measured a chain for the first time last weekend instead of waiting until the whole lot needed replacing. I hung it up alongside a new one - bloody hell. Not sure how knackered it is, but I doubt it'll be going back on. Luckily must have done it in time because the new one sits fine on the cassette.
    10 weeks / 1000 miles .. £15 = £1.50 a week ...
  26. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Is it laziness, ignorance or just techno-fear? I mean we used to learn all this stuff (full bike maintenance) as teens, first on your Raleigh Ways-a-ton, and then on whatever "racer" you managed to pick up.
  27. a_chap

    a_chap Welcome, my son. Welcome to The Machine.

    This.
  28. Blagsta

    Blagsta Minimum cage, maximum cage

    Not sure I agree with that. I can do minor maintainace, like repair punctures, replace brake blocks and cables, adjust gears and replace cables. However overhauling a hub or replacing bearings in a headset are beyond me, so I'll go to a bike shop. I don't think I'm either clueless or a hyperbiker.
  29. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    One thing that bugs me is the numbers of people who ride on bikes that have rusty chains. Chains are a moving part and need to be cleaned and lubricated regularly.

    I've done a couple of cycle training sessions where some kid has brought along a bike with a severely rusted chain. On 2 occasions, the chain snapped.
  30. gentlegreen

    gentlegreen Nadie espera a la babosa española

    In my late teens / early 20s I used to strip and rebuild motorcycles, I even replaced the cylinders and pistons in my Reliant car engine, but my early cycling days (20-something years) are a blur in terms of even fixing brakes and gears, and even 4 years ago I used to take my bike to the shop when it had all gone wrong and hand over £200 rather than buy the specialist tool and do it myself.

    It took me to start doing group rides for me to start taking it seriously - that and not wanting ever to break down on the side of the road or be without my bike for even a day.
    My steerer rusting through and putting me in casualty was a key moment.

    Basic maintenance is something I almost look forward to - usually 10am on a Saturday - I would be out there now if it wasn't raining.

    Investing £100 on a good repair stand was a very good move.

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