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Old Negatives

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by mick2007, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. miss minnie

    miss minnie Well-Known Member

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    e2a: ooh, what happened your pic of the elephant fountain mick?
     
  2. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    Oh No! Sorry about that. I took it off because while searching I too discovered it had bog all to do with Coventry. Thanks for help all the same!
     
  3. cybertect

    cybertect Now up West

    That is the new building. If it's the same sort of negative plate as the others, it lends support to your idea that they're 1880s images.
     
  4. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I was really chuffed when I read that. Though the others might be earlier..also like you said Cybertect..there is an outside chance that these are the negs by Joseph Wingrave?! His chemist and photo shop were on the 'High Street'. The same street as The Kings Head. His address was 4 High Street, could it possibly be because the Kings Head is at the top of the High Street on the link, that the Kings Head shot was taken from the second floor of his shop? His shop was near 'Pepper Lane'..so I'm not 100% which end of the High Street his shop was. On first glace of the link it would appear to be the other end alas.
     
  5. cybertect

    cybertect Now up West

    I'm not so sure

    http://www.historiccoventry.co.uk/covmaps/allmaps.php

    Pepper Lane is the next street down from Broadgate on the northern side of High Street opposite Greyfriars Lane.

    I think that photo must have been taken from the opposite side of Hertford Street to the Hotel.

    e2a: I reckon his shop was where the West Bromwich Building Society is now, on the corner of Pepper Lane and High Street [StreetView].

    The address of HSBC on the other side of Pepper Lane junction is Nos 5/6 High Street and the numbers run up as you go south-east.

    The view of the Kings Head from his shop would have been something like this, so your photo must have been taken from a building roughly where the Lady Godiva News or Nationwide is now.

    Hertford Street has been slightly re-aligned, so the Kings Head site was roughly where Greggs is now.

    e2a: so it was literally round the corner from his shop. It's entirely feasible he knew people on the other side of the street well enough to get access to the second floor to take a photo of Peeping Tom.
     
  6. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    Joseph Wingrave is listed on that link of photographers in Coventry
     
  7. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

  8. cybertect

    cybertect Now up West

    Mrs c says it's Coombe Abbey

    E2a: Wingrave photographed it in 1860.

    http://www.coventry-walks.org.uk/coombe/ca-then-now.html

    But your photo dates from at least after 1865, when some new building took place, designed by William Eden Nesfield.

    I was about to go leafing through my books on Norman Shaw when mrs c piped up saying it's Coombe... Nesfield was Shaw's partner. :)
     
  9. Crispy

    Crispy Fond of drink and industry

    I love this thread :cool:
     
  10. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    I thought you were female cybertect :oops:
     
  11. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards Sort of like a real Bohemian. Sort of.

    She is ;)

    Very liberal times we're enjoying.

    More of these threads please!
     
  12. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke


    Oh
     
  13. cybertect

    cybertect Now up West

    :p

    Stanley is fibbing, though this isn't the first time I've been thought to be female on U75 :hmm:

    [checks bits - they're still there.]
     
  14. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    Glad I amended my post then as I asked whether you'd got married and was searching threads about civil partnerships :oops::D

    Wonder why I thought you were female? Maybe get you mixed up with cyberfairy? :hmm:
     
  15. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    Well done Mrs C yet again!

    The sign reads 'Notice This Footway has been stopped by the order of the Magistrates'.

    Thats the lot really. There is another that is definitely a copy of a very early photograph of another church being built with all the scaffolding around it.

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    High res

    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5498872670_f46c2f120c_o.jpg
     
  16. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    All Saints, Allesley, Millisons Wood, near Coventry
     
  17. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    Yes, definitely...

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  18. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    I was thrown a bit, because the windows have been altered, but finding a pic with the tomb in the foreground confirmed it for me.
     
  19. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    I'll know for sure when Mrs C has a look...she's the expert!
     
  20. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    ...right, Wikipedia tells me
    which tells me that your photograph was taken after 1863.
     
  21. cybertect

    cybertect Now up West

  22. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    Talk about Urban 75 information service.

    I must admit I looked through about 250 old photographs of schools around Coventry yesterday and didn't really come up with anything..didn't fancy doing it again with a rural looking church. So brilliant!
     
  23. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    I started by googling Norman Church Spire. If you can tell the architectural style it saves a lot of time.
     
  24. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    No doubt!..a lot better than googling 'church near Coventry'.
     
  25. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    Got any more?
     
  26. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    I really love this thread :)
     
  27. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    Not scanned at the moment..all there is left is the odd other church, plus the copy job of the church covered with scaffolding.

    On the other hand in the same batch are the rural photo's on this thread..they are no doubt later..but it's very hard to know if they are connected with Coventry..I think there are a few more of them I haven't put on here, but it's just people having a picnic or something.
     
  28. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    OK, there has been a slight turn around. This one is a wet plate negative just like all the other one's identified of being around Coventry. So I can only presume that this scene is as well.

    This afternoon I was sad enough to be completely enthralled looking for bridges like this around Coventry. First I stumbled across the fact that it must be a pack horse bridge.

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    High Res.

    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5504187263_7bd3c8c6c1_o.jpg

    After around 2 hours of surfing about the best I can come up with is this.

    http://www.acoventryway.org.uk/wwf/gallery/photos/image014.htm

    Remember the early photograph was probably taken in the 1880's..the photograph above was taken in 2005, the bridge no doubt has had some work done on it by looking at the brick work and it was done along time ago by the looks of it.

    Is this the same bridge then?!

    I've got as far I as I can with it..
     
  29. cybertect

    cybertect Now up West

    Here's a better photo of Pedlars Bridge today

    http://www.acoventryway.org.uk/slide_show/photo043.htm

    Even allowing for modern restoration (which occurred around 2003) here are enough differences in some of the basic details to make me wonder if it is the same bridge.

    The location is a good tie-in with Coombe Abbey nearby, though. :hmm:
     
  30. mick2007

    mick2007 Well-Known Member

    I know it's a puzzler..but a rare bridge. My guess is the house on the left should be the give away. Looking at the state of it, it really wouldn't suprise me if all you could find now was foundations?

    It obviously could be somewhere else..but everything I've read tied this photo back here.

    edit.

    another shot.

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