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NF attack on Manchester Pride-please help

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by rosa, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. rosa

    rosa anger is an energy

    apologies for the cut n paste but this is important

    URGENT - The National Front have told Manchester Police they will be holding a counter-demonstration in the centre of Manchester as the city's Pride Parade goes past.

    The police have not seen fit to ban the NF event. The City Council strongly backs the Pride Parade, and many councillors are keen that the fascists should not be allowed to even heckle the Parade unopposed.

    Unite Against Fascism is calling a counter-demonstration. Come and help drown out the Fascists.

    Please pass the information on to friends, and come and join us on Saturday - from 12.30 on Exchange Square (behind Marks & Spencer).
  2. poet

    poet Norman Borlaug > you

    I'll bring everyone I can.
  3. nosos

    nosos Well-Known Member

    I was planning on heading up to Manchester some point this weekend but I'll do my best to come down earlier for this.

    Fucking cunts. :mad:
  4. flimsier

    flimsier Banned Banned

    Wankers.

    Incidentally, the UAF demo is a counter-counter-demonstration, isn't it? :cool:
  5. icepick

    icepick spanning time

    NF attacked people on birmingham pride recently didn't they?

    I hope they "get their shit kicked in", as a Norn-Ironer would say. It would be especially nice if they got done by a "bunch of poofs" :cool:
  6. WouldBe

    WouldBe non smoking

    There's a lot of skinhead poofs in Manc so quite likely.

    The NF are only jealous because us poofs get more than they do. :)
  7. Chuck Wilson

    Chuck Wilson Banned Banned

    Should be interesting as the Army are turning up to recruit , apparantly sexual orientation is a private issue, corporal. Or should that be not a major issue, general or a general private issue sir.
  8. jæd

    jæd Corporate Hooker

    They do know that a lot of gay boys spend time in the gym...? Reminds of the time someone try to mug me and my bf, thinking fags are an easy touch. Seeing as how the bf has never hit someone, I was quite surprised at how weak cartlidge is.
  9. peppery

    peppery Whats Your Price?

    Is this targetting of the gay community in such a public way a new thing?
  10. cogg

    cogg Clear spot!

    Reminds me of two anti-fascists I knew in the early 1990s, a gay couple, violent as fuck when it came to fascists or homophobes. But why not?
    The bit where one of them hit a leading BNP member with a metal chair. Repeatedly. was good. ;)
  11. Taxamo Welf

    Taxamo Welf kebagels pls

    er no, but it hasn´t been a common feature of fascist activity in recent years. The BNP keep very quite on sexuality i think nowadays. The furthest they will go is opposing the ´promotion´of homosexuality, which is pretty much in tune with the Tories.

    There are plenty of homophobic attacks, by fascists, closet fascists, closet homosexuals and closet homosexual fascists, but public demo´s...

    Its fucking mental that anyone, no matter how palstic nazi they are, thinks they can get away with holding a demonstration against the second biggest sexuality in the world in PRESENT DAY England.

    I won´t be back yet but i hope these NF twats get to hear the music. And i hope UAF don´t fuck it up for people who want to MAKE them hear it.
  12. behemoth

    behemoth Buy Urban75 on Ebay

    Anyone know what is happening with the NF in Chatham today? Their march was banned but were still planning to hold a rally.
  13. Wookey

    Wookey Playful as a pussy cat

    Very few NF there today, but I got all their faces on camera for future reference! The Anti-fash were a lot louder - the Nazis just seemed to stand there sheepishly behind a banner saying Keep Section 28!~

    If that's the best message they've got, I reckon we're safe!

    Also, I was told that one of the anti-fash had a banner taken off them by police because it said SCUM on it - the cop in question explained to me that it was a spark word, not one they would accept from either side.

    I said They disgust me those dicks, he said: Look at the colour of my skin, what do you reckon I think about them?!

    He was a black officer.

    Anyway, yeah, fuck em, it was dismal, in the very best way.
    :D
  14. icepick

    icepick spanning time

    That's what I thought, publicly anyway. But I was reading their "theoretical" mag, Vanguard I think, the other day, and it was just rabid, saying they were all disease-ridden faggots trying to convert everyone's kids and it must be stopped. Still that was in '97 and they have changed their image since then...
  15. Taxamo Welf

    Taxamo Welf kebagels pls

    The BNP?
  16. Ryazan

    Ryazan I'maleftytradeunionist!!!

    LMAO.
  17. Wookey

    Wookey Playful as a pussy cat

    Yes, that was funny!
    :D
  18. Wookey

    Wookey Playful as a pussy cat

  19. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    I'm glad it was a pathetic turn out.

    The NF actually ran for parliament in Manchester Central, under the title "National Front - British Bulldog Bites Back"

    They didnt do well, but sadly they beat Scargells' Socialist Labour and an Independent Labour guy, which was disturbing.

    It is thought they were there for the early part of the count, no one wore a rosette. I think they probably pissed off when they saw how few they were getting.

    I'm told the Bulldog reference is football linked to City, apologies to City fans if that's not true. I know there is a good anti-fash mentality in North Manchester as well as the nazi threat and nazi-friendly pubs.

    I'm also reminded of the "Bulldog" NF rag that Bushell used to write for :mad:
  20. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    I'm glad it was a pathetic turn out.

    The NF actually ran for parliament in Manchester Central, under the title "National Front - British Bulldog Bites Back"

    They didnt do well, but sadly they beat Scargells' Socialist Labour and an Independent Labour guy, which was disturbing.

    It is thought they were there for the early part of the count, no one wore a rosette. I think they probably pissed off when they saw how few they were getting.

    I'm told the Bulldog reference is football linked to City, apologies to City fans if that's not true. I know there is a good anti-fash mentality in North Manchester as well as the nazi threat and nazi-friendly pubs.

    I'm also reminded of the "Bulldog" NF rag that Bushell used to write for :mad:

    But today's show underscores the victory at Altrincham against Le Pen :D
  21. LLETSA

    LLETSA We've all had enough. Banned Banned



    Why, what exactly have you been told?
  22. LLETSA

    LLETSA We've all had enough. Banned Banned



    When and what did Bushell write for Bulldog?
  23. Chuck Wilson

    Chuck Wilson Banned Banned

    Which 'nazi friendly ' pubs are these then? And when did Bushell write for Bulldog?? :confused:
  24. LLETSA

    LLETSA We've all had enough. Banned Banned



    How do you define this so-called 'Nazi threat' to North Manchester?
  25. behemoth

    behemoth Buy Urban75 on Ebay

    Apparently the NF and opponents were outnumbered by 100 police in Chatham. Walked around town and didn't see anything but hordes of shoppers. Most people probably don't know or care one way or the other.
  26. Dhimmi

    Dhimmi Half Man Half HobNob

    Saw this event briefly reported on BBC News24, mainly focused on the GP but also mentioned how the police were part of the parade, handing out recruitment info. The NF wasn't mentioned.
  27. LLETSA

    LLETSA We've all had enough. Banned Banned



    The NF are entirely irrelevant except when they are the focus of a proxy vote for the BNP, as has happened in the north-east.

    The likes of UAF overestimate the gullibility of the members of the public who encounter the usual fifty or so people (as has been pointed out before, wherever in the country they appear it is always more or less the same fifty people) who make up the predictable non-events that are NF demos.
  28. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    LLETSA and Chuck Wilson

    Sorry, but the my evidence for the points you ask me on isnt any stronger than hearsay of peoples' opinions who I trust.

    I have a mate who was in the anti-nazi movement in the 70s, now a cabbie round north manchester among other things.

    He has told me of a couple of pubs frequented by nazis where they are openly tolerated.

    He tells me racist and prop BNP opinions from the back of his cab are not uncommon.

    The "Bulldog Bites Back" linked to soccer violence came from someone in the pub who seemed to know what he was on about. I guess you dont have to believe that.

    I simply cant be arsed to google for proof that Bushell wrote for Bulldog, it was something I heard years ago in a couple of different places.

    3 things I'm pretty vague about then and I'd love clarification on.

    The only one I dont fully trust is the roots of "british bulldog bites back"

    Fascism is far from rife in Manchester, but they are ambitious in the north and not without their sympathisers.
  29. LLETSA

    LLETSA We've all had enough. Banned Banned



    What a bizarre post. Why bother, if all you can come up with as regards evidence for your earlier assertions is 'hearsay' from anonymous individuals?

    Pubs 'frequented by nazis'? What, in full Third Reich regalia? Openly tolerated? As in everybody knowing that they are 'nazis' and turning a blind eye? Or what? You don't make it clear whether 'Nazis' have made the pubs their own or whether far right individuals and groups simply drink in certain places-in which case most other customers might not know their political affiliations, or even care about them.

    'Racist and pro-BNP opinions are not unknown?' Hardly a revelation. Over the last few years pro-BNP opinion has been growing steadily, while racists have always been widespread and do not necessarily support the BNP. Neither phenomenon is particularly unique to north Manchester. Nor has the BNP received strong electoral support in north Manchester so far. In fact, they have hardly even stood in elections there. (I assume you are referring to north Manchester as in the northern suburbs of the city, as opposed to Oldham, which is a separate town with different conditions and traditions.)

    'Somebody in the pub who seemed to know what he was on about?' Things are not always what they seem though, are they?

    If you 'can't be arsed proving that Bushell wrote for Bulldog,' why state it in the first place? Hasn't the left got enough cardboard hate figures to be wanking on about already?

    As I said, bizarre.
  30. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    LLETSA

    I posted the stuff becuase I thought it was useful and pretty reliable info.

    I've only been honest about the sources, and you are free to scoff as you have.

    By "nazi pubs", I mean pubs where BNP supporters and activists are regulars, as are their views which are rarely questioned.

    There are certainly pubs in Manchester environs where fascists meet to plot fascist deeds, not just in the north either (no, I didnt mean Oldham)

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