new steam train built in the uk:first built in nearly 50 years

Its admirable but its clearly done by a bunch of well educated engineering nutters!

Better that than some maniacal death to everyone scheme.

First steam loco to be be built in Uk for 50 years

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1225886619/html/1.stm

KBJ - get your arse down the 'Boris - Way to Go' thread. Your pin up boy is taking a pasting.

The post you quote was put up in February you numbnuts.


Sweet train tho, love it when things are done just for the hell of it.

I'd have loved to see that! I did see Tornado at York last Friday - or rather the front, sticking out from the running shed at the National Railway Museum. I wondered why she was there...

<e2a> Story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/7712796.stm

YouTube video of 60163 passing through York station:

Oh dear. I miss that deluded fool though.

It's now been repainted and will soon be running commercial services

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7810296.stm

that colour is rubbish though. get some BR Black on it!

I was about to post that link!

Can't see why they've gone for apple green. For most of their lives the A1s were Brunswick green, like this:



When I was younger I knew a bloke who ran a general store and Hornby model shop. Or, rather, his wife took care of the groceries whilst he did the interesting bit! On the wall of the shop was a picture of the engine pictured above - 60121 Silurian - on which he had been fireman in the early 1960s. He told me enough stories to get me interested and he always said it was sad that all of the class had 'gone to make saucepans' - which is one reason I'm so pleased to see 60163 ready to run.

<e2a> The wikipedia article on 60163 seems to suggest they've got the approval they were after to run at 90mph too!

I was also going to post that link.
I have no idea what the colour should be, but the beauty is the guys hand painting it.
It's wonderful and I just have to see it and hear it and travel behind it.
True engineering Art

It's making its first public charter run on 7th February, from Darlington to London King's Cross. I might well go along and watch it arrive.

The day after my birthday, thus my present to myself!
I haven't seen St Pancras yet either.
A glass of champers also I think!

PM me nearer the time and I'll buy you one

That sounds good to me! It'd be good to see you. St Pancras is well worth a look too - it's magnificent.

There's no info yet on the Main Line Steam site on timings, but if it's got to come all the way from Darlington it won't arrive too early in the day.

Incidentally, did anyone see the programme about Tornado that was on BBC4 over Christmas? It rejoiced in the awful title 'Absolutely Chuffed,' but it was rather good. It's off iPlayer now, unfortunately, but doubtless it'll be somewhere on the web...

As a layperson with little railway knowledge at all. I think it's great that they did it. And I'd like to see it in action

I'm sure that in East Germany they did some work with pulverised coal so thay had some sort of fuel injction system along the length of the firebox...... I read that in some railway mag in the dim and distant past.... I must have a dig

Other folk building modern steam engines at the moment include...

http://www.dlm-ag.ch/index2-en.htm

(Heavily refurbished and modified)


Built in the 1990s


http://www.5at.co.uk/

Mechanical stoking was common practice in a lot of countries for a long time. The reason it was never seriously introduced here was that British trains were relatively small and rarely above the capacity of one man to fire by hand. Meanwhile, mechanical stoking was less efficient than skilful hand firing and generated more and dirtier smoke, which didn't go down well in crowded British cities. Therefore, British locos were almost invariably hand-fired. In the US, though, there was a rule that any engine with a grate bigger than a certain size had to have a mechanical stoker, and they were used in many parts of Europe and Asia as well. <e2a> IIRC it was usually small-coal rather than pulverised coal, though.

Re. the 5AT project that teuchter links to, I think it's interesting and I'd like to think that the publicity around Tornado will give it a boost. David Wardale is an interesting bloke, who did a lot of work modifying and improving steam engines in South Africa and China after steam finished in Europe. If anyone can make it work, he can, although uit's as well to point out that no-one is suggesting the 5AT is any more than a one-off: it's just a higher-performance loco designed to operate charter trains more easily under modern conditions than original locos. I've yet to find a copy of his book about the Red Devil at an affordable price, though...

Coz it looks fabulous!


All the best engines looked like that....

It'd look fabulous in virtually any colour tbf, but I much prefer Brunswick green...

might check that out myself - glass of champers would go down very well on such an occasion

the st pancras pub ain't too bad either, real ale at about £3 a pint, which although a little expensive, not as expensive as i thought it might be, you can sit outside and watch trains arrive as well

u75 trainspotters' outing, anyone?

you'll like this then

or how about this?

or this?

i wish that site would let me hotlink

just had a thought, will the train be coming in overground as it were? where the eurostar trains terminate?

Neither: it'll be coming into King's Cross.

yay!

you did say that

still we can meet in the st pancras bar anyways

It could be worse.

I don't see why not.

At some point they'll put the train's schedule up here - I'll post it up when they do.

mmm....nice!

how bout this? what would mr editor say??

i'd be up for that

trains......check
urbanites.....check
beeeeeeer!....check

it'll be like the severn valley all over again!