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Middle class wannabes want the working class to subsidise their pensions ?

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by trampie, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork outlook innacurate

    1) People in the public sector are taxpayers
    2) If we don't support each others' collective actions, we will all pay more in the end through a diminished quality of life.
     
  2. trampie

    trampie Ba..ba..blacksheep Banned

    Good post.
    The public sector workers are not at the bottom of the pile for pay and conditions, i have no faith in the middle class wannabes supporting the working class, they are in most cases looking out for themselves.
     
  3. belboid

    belboid Hang Liberals

    Expenditure on pensions was £32billion (http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/press_89_11.htm) - if you're going to copy right wing bullshit out, you should at least try to do so accurately (and/or understand what the figures you use actually mean)
     
  4. Zabo

    Zabo Il est interdit d'interdire

    BBC Radio 4. Jonty Bloom

    "Next year, the fall in the standard of living will be the largest on record. The I.F.S. have calculated that the real standard of living in 2015 will be no better than it was in 2001. That is a fourteen year freeze in living standards. That has never happened before."
     
  5. belboid

    belboid Hang Liberals

    yes, but as you've just proved, you're a pig ignorant, brainless, fuckwit, so you're opinion isn't really worth piss, is it?
     
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  6. fogbat

    fogbat Thus, I win.

    "You a boxer, son? I was a boxer, too. 40 years, man and boy. Hardest job in the world. Buy us a pint, eh?"
     
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  7. ExtraRefined

    ExtraRefined Better than you at everything you love

    Above average pay for everyone!
     
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  8. MellySingsDoom

    MellySingsDoom Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric

    So, to summarise: don't join a union, endure being shat upon by your employers endlessly, and then wait for a "socialist" party (i.e. called something like "Labour for the Welsh and Scots only (no English fascist scum allowed - and that's all the English)") to come and save us all by, er, something or other?

    (Anyway, I'm off to support some strikers in a moment, who are doubtlessly ENGLISH SCUM WHO ARE DOGS AND VERMIM etc etc. Have a nice day, chief)
     
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  9. trampie

    trampie Ba..ba..blacksheep Banned

    You know it dont you, the wannabes are not the bottom of the pile.
     
  10. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork outlook innacurate

    :D
     
  11. Corax

    Corax This will change your life: http://bit.ly/19lPFRa

    Sources for the second and third points please.
     
  12. belboid

    belboid Hang Liberals

    we'll make do with getting the money from worthless, unproductive, cunts like you and Gove, ta muchly
     
  13. past caring

    past caring The Cathars were right

    Always said scratch a Welsh Nat and find a Tory. You're the kind of cunt who'd make me feel ashamed to be Welsh if you weren't such a fucking looney-tunes failure.
     
  14. belboid

    belboid Hang Liberals

    naah, you are bottom of the pile in every possible way (with your tongue rammed far up thge arse of your 'betters')
     
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  15. trampie

    trampie Ba..ba..blacksheep Banned

    I think people should join a union and i support the strike, but i support the strike knowing that lots of the strikers dont care for the working class and lots of them are Tories, all workers should have similar pay and conditions not just the selected few.
     
  16. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork outlook innacurate

    Even if that means similarly shit pay?
     
  17. trampie

    trampie Ba..ba..blacksheep Banned

    All workers should have similar pay and conditions not just the select few, no to elitism and capitalist exploitation.
     
  18. Random

    Random Ethnic nalgocrat

    Because they're better organised. Why blame people for being unionised?
     
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  19. scifisam

    scifisam feck! arse! girls! drink!

    Unilever factory workers are striking.
     
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  20. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork outlook innacurate

    But you're defending capitalist exploitation you muppet.
     
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  21. EastEnder

    EastEnder Brixton Barnacle

    Teachers & nurses are elitist?
     
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  22. belboid

    belboid Hang Liberals

    your support is about as useful as a sack of shit, you moronic dolt
     
  23. Corax

    Corax This will change your life: http://bit.ly/19lPFRa

    Envy. The media have been steadily nurturing a private sector vs public sector angle for some time now. It fits very neatly with the govt's privatisation agenda, and is based on some very 'selective' logic.
     
  24. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork outlook innacurate

    It's ironic how the Tories are usually the ones to criticise the left for engaging in 'the politics of envy', yet here they are encouraging exactly the same thing in their own interests. Disgusting really.
     
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  25. trampie

    trampie Ba..ba..blacksheep Banned

    Yes you are correct they are better organised and i support the strike but see it as one gropu of workers trying to get the best deal for themselves and not caring for the rest of society and also im not blaming people for being unionised, for all the faults of unions particularly union leaders i would say its better for workers to be in a union than not, the wannabes are one group that helped to put a Tory government in office are they not ?, i have no faith in that daily mail reading group of wannabes supporting the working class or voting for a party that supports the lower classes.
     
  26. Blagsta

    Blagsta Minimum cage, maximum cage

    What the fuck are you on about?
     
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  27. Ivana Nap

    Ivana Nap Well-Known Member

    Who are the wannabes? Just the teachers you've mentioned? Do you call them that because you haven't been allowed to go to school today?
     
  28. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork outlook innacurate

    What are you waffling on about? :confused:
     
  29. Random

    Random Ethnic nalgocrat

    I agree that union members need to see this as part of a broader political fight, and not just pull up the drawbridges and defend their own corner. But that's what this mass strike is part of.

    Why do you think that a lot of the strikers are Daily Mail reading tories? And anyway, if a tory strikes or supports the strikes then that's positive. Millions of people do vote for reactionary parties, but it jsut goes to show how important strikes are, that even a tory like sassferanto supports them now.
     
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  30. gosub

    gosub ~#

    These better pensions, in the non final salary private sector, are they coming about well placed bets on the stock exchange when the FTSE is over 20% down on 2008 figures or by more the supposed less risky investment in bonds, a market that has been subprime bubbled and quite likely to go into meltdown? The setting of workers against themselves is some public sector whose bright idea is leave their final salary pensions alone and pay for it with a Robin Hood tobin tax. A tax, financial institutions will pass on to already hit investors...ie private sector pension plans.
     

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