Discussion in 'football' started by newme, Jun 8, 2011.
Like every cunt that dives?
Dives are hard to prove - that was blatant
Of course diving is the same as racism.
You said unsporting not racism
That wasn't me.
United 1 Racists 0!!!!
Good day yesterday! Decent atmosphere for a change and the right result.
Hairy last ten minutes though. We can never do it the easy way can we, despite twatting them for most of the game.
Welbeck was superb imo and really deserved a goal. Giggs was off and that new ginger lad* looks like a decent signing.
Now lets hope Villa batter them blue fuckers and we can kick on! (Yeah, I know)
*I still think using him to cover up our huge crater in midfield is a shit PR stunt and embarrassing to the club but he's doing alright.
I agree with all the above apart from the last line, he retired far too early and was our best midfielder yesterday, in fact I would say he was the best midfielder on the pitch.
Nah, that was Valencia IMO - best player on the pitch. It was a poor match overall, the difference was Liverpool gave away two goals and Man U only the one. Deserved win for you lot.
You might be right as it goes about Valencia, but it was close.
I thought he was the only player on the pitch that carried real threat. Scholes had some sumptuous passes as usual, but Valencia was the one who made things happen IMO.
Scholes is running our midfield at the moment. Which is great and there's certainly an argument to say he retired too soon.
But a club like Manchester United should not be reduced to bringing back retired players to mask the fact there's a gaping hole in our midfield. At Anfield we crumbled after Scholes went off and since he doesn't always have a full game in him we need proper replacements for what has been our weakest area for about five years now.
Apart from the player that got the decisive goals and had a hat-trick wrongly ruled out.
Fergie takes his mouth of millionaire cock for a moment and sends support to strikers
Pity all the other non cock in mouths independent minds of their own managers can't find the time to do likewise.
How do you know they haven't or that they have even heard of the issue?
Give over Fed, if they had we would have heard, Why don't you do a search a see what you come up with?
Or maybe they don't try and continually play the 'ahcumfaegovan' bollocks like fergie when he's a multi-millionaire who supported the SKY attempt and now supports the Glazers. Fergies PR dept goes into action.....
You really are talking bollocks and you know it.
'ahcumfaegovan' is on his mirror at home, oooohh lok at me i'm still like I was.... Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn....
I lived where he used to, I know several people he gew up with who he likes to namecheck every now and again to remind us all of his 'authenticity'.....
What the fuck has any of that got to do with him going public with his support for striking workers while Moyes, Lennon and all the rest of your working class true to themselves what you see is what you get hero's saying fuck all?
Who says they are my heros?
Yup, a multi-millionaire who backed the Glazers against the fans, he's a real working-class hero isn't he?! Excuse my while I take a pish laughing....
Does he still insist people call him "Sir" Alex?
Seriously, What the fuck was he supposed to do? He made his opposition to the takeover known before it happened, once it went ahead, Did you expect him to barricade himself in his office or chain himself to the goal posts? You are being a fucking dick on this one.
Everyone knows how much you hate United and anything to do with the club, but on this particular issue you would be better venting your spleen on all the other millionaire managers who have not uttered a fucking word of support for these strikers or any others.
Fuck off you Sun reading racist cunt.
Yes, so much so that I defended Evra, defended Ferguson and criticised LFC, Suarez, Dogleash and Commolli over the recent incidents.
Support for strikers coming from a man who attacked his own fans over millionaires moving into your club and has been rimming the Glazers ever since is a tad hard to swallow.... Though perhaps it isn't so hard for some to swallow.
You stood up for someone who was racially abused, Do you want a medal for that?
What Attack on the supporters and what rimming? You are twisting and exaggerating his words.
Where did I ask for a medal? You should calm down a bit.
He publically criticised Man United fans for opposing the Glaziers and has been remarkably positive about the Glazers, he was damning in his criticism of the FCUM lot even questioning how big a fan of United they were, also ironically referring to FCUM founders as "publicity seekers". So forgive me for not being entirely convinced by his occasional, well publicised, titbits thrown to workers in struggle.
No one is a fan of the Glazers but the difference is that once fergie stated his opposition to the take over what more could he do, especially as the issue is a matter of different owners ie shareholders versus private family, not exactly a cut and dry workers versus bosses, infact from Fergies perspective the Glazers are probably less of a pain in the hole than shareholders who interfere a fuck more in the day to day running of the club.
It's not like the alternative to the Glazers is some sort of insurrectionary workers council, it's simply a different set of owners with deeper pockets and less need for a mortgage. Infact when I hear United fans hoping to get bought out by some petro chemical dollars or such so they can indulge their CHamp Manager transfer fantasy wank fests I get really depressed. I also get pissed off when people engage in revisionism and pretend like United used to have a transfer policy like Real Madrid when in truth they've always been prepared to shell out large sums but never on established world class talent (look how Veron, the exception to this, turned out).
Anyway it seems wankerish not to just say "Fair enough" for his response to the strike, sure it hardly takes a ultra leftist to point out the contradictions of Sir Alex Ferguson, his wealth and his new labour support but I think for a person in his position it's actually something that he still atleast seeks to try and support these sort of things, with it's shortcomings included.
Actually the more you look at the Glazers ownership of United and compare it to sugar daddy owners there should be atleast an acknowledgment that as business men they have the wit to stay out of the football side, because frankly they only give a fuck about the bottom line, which in many ways better than having a fucking mental Bond villain waltzing about trying to tell you how to manage the team and give one of your best midfielders tips on how to receive and shield the ball.
Also whilst his comments about FCUM and the anti Glazer campaign were often churlish I just have to be honest and say frankly I don't really give a fuck, it's not really an issue of political importance to me, it's not a class issue in a meaningful manner, the thrust of the anti Glazers movement has been driven through an agenda to get rich United fans to buy out the club. The FCUM issue is romantic and all but really all it represents is small scale dropping out that doesn't challenge capitalism and it's grip on football, at it's worse it gives the impression that it's all about more self management of capitalism, but really if FCUM got to a position of challenging to go anywhere in the top divisions it would be forced to engage in the same practices as any other club. You only have to look at Real and Barca who are "democratically fan ran" but are just as much corporate entities as Man United.
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