How mad is the US

Peebs, the last time I tried arguing the case for evolution on Poulter's boards I had my account suspended and then banned for 'too much linking', as well as seeing the usual repsonse of all your buddies - as soon as you're presented with actual evidence and complex argument that you have to think about you change topic/ignore the point being made.

And yes, I know lots of people on here do that as well but we're not talking about them at the moment.

from 'Repent America', in the OP, this in a little sidebar:

I originally thought it was a parody; alarmingly, it looks real. This is one of the worst fundamentalist right-wing pieces of crap I've seen on the internet in a while...

this from their 'about' section'

Fuck man, at least they're Xtians who believe in God and the Devil...

It's like the Big Lebowksi - say what you like about the Nazi's but at least they had an ideology, man.

Well, the whole 'God hates homosexuals' thing really makes me mad.
Recently a preacher I heard cited a report saying an estimated 1 of every 90 people in San Francisco is homeless. He stated this was because God was punishing them for accepting homosexuality.
If God really hated homosexuals, they wouldn't exist in the first place. However, that sort of argument to them goes in one ear and out the other.

God must really love me he made me love all genders

I love the whole 'Are you good enough to go to Heaven' bs:

That would be a 'no', then

Edited to add: actually, make that 10 'no's.

Its like that penguin film, the one that has all the intelligent design nuts saying how it proves intelligent design..

Well, if the penguin is an example of ID then & if they have to walk many miles to get to the ocean, why did this super intelligent designer give them legs 2 inches long..??

Either he has no idea of stride length or he/she has something against penguins & fancies a good laugh..

Well doubles your chance of a "shag" on a Saturday night..

Stands to reason, why exclude 50% of potential "pulls" just because they happen to be the wrong sex..

Yup, whats the point of having a cake if you aint going to eat it.

If heaven is full of people like 'them' I'd rather not go there.

At least america has a distinct separation of church and state. Unlike the UK ... where they pray in state schools.

Not sure what it is the british object to in the religous right. Oviously here it would be the 'right' aspect of it, but there are right wing people everywhere.

Obviously there are odious nutjobs here who think hurricanes were caused by god punishing homosexuals but they are not even slightly representative of the religious right let alone the american people as a whole. Britain also has it's fair share of odious nutjobs ...

It might have something to do with the british killing each other in large numbers and oppressing one group or another for about 400 years and this is possibly why we have a modern Church of England which is essentially liberal (but it does have it's fraggles) and a distrust of politically powerful religious figures.

Don't forget it is only about 150 years since Catholics were emancipated from restrictions and we still have the politico-religious hangover in Northern Ireland.

I agree we have have our own share of right wing nutters but they are more misguided patriots and perveyors of racial identity politics rather than based on a 'christian' ethos.

Well said.

Aye and there is a sizeable lobby that does not want a separation of church and state. Have you seen the right wing press lately?

.......Except when small-guns are kickin' our ass, presently!!!!

Welcome to 'Nam II.........

I think now is a good time to link to this article by Richard Dawkins (with thanks to Epicurus from this thread).

Tell me about it. That pat robertson nutcase for one. But I still don't think that's a majority view ... even within the christian right (which I assume to mean churchgoers who vote republican?).

I think the UK always sees or hears about the extreme viewpoints from the states and perhaps assumes such views are more common than they actually are?

It's also worth pointing out that the size of the US population inevitably produces a greater volume of extremists.

That's assuming he's benevolent, and I'd say that assumption is unsustainable given the behaviour of his/her/its most devoted followers in the US.

Have you come across these guys? They were featured on Newsnight a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.joshgen.org/

Patrick Henry College
http://www.phc.edu/about/default.asp

In other words, creating the future automatons that will lead America.

But seriously, there is a dedicated hardcore of homeschoolers who believe it is their mission to shape America's destiny.

Yeah, because none of you fuckers will accept evidence from sources you disapprove of, or anything that contradicts your insular mindsets. You cannot win an argument with an idiot. It's a paradox.

You have to have solid non-partisan sorces same as here.

Why would you want a double standard?

The thing is there are lots and lots of published and peer reveiwed non partisan sources for evolution.

You can't say the same for creationism.

Correct and they all state its an unproven theory.

Just like inteligent design is a theory.

IT'S NOT A FUCKING THEORY.

Ahem,

Sorry, you were saying something stupid? Do carry on.

WE havn't proved it yet, so its a theory.

Their are no other alternatives.

You smoking crack or what tonight?

And yes thats a fair question late on a friday night on urban.

It fails the test for a scientific theory, thus it is not a theory.

It's superstition.

AS declaired by king bob.

Now you're getting it.

The us isn't part of your kingdom bob.