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Googles Nexus 7 tablet discussion, reviews

Discussion in 'mobiles and tablets' started by Sunray, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. editor

    editor Like an ultra left hatboy on heat

    Is it being sold at a loss?
     
  2. maldwyn

    maldwyn What?

    Various Tech heads seem to agree it's either at a loss or cost.
     
  3. magneze

    magneze mnemonic beef

    The CEO of Asus said cost. He'd probably know tbf.
     
  4. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Some sites think so. It seems like a reasonable estimate, or if not then its certainly a very close thing.

    Google are desperate to get momentum going with Android tablets, because its widely acknowledged that despite the existence of some nice models, sales have been underwhelming and they really can't afford to have such poor momentum at this stage.

    It makes sense for Google to take a loss because their real bread & butter is having people use their services, and although they've done rather well with phones they don't want to surrender the tablet market to others.
     
  5. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    And Asus don't have much reason to sell at cost so I presume Google are making it worth their while.
     
  6. editor

    editor Like an ultra left hatboy on heat

    Indeed. There is no evidence I've seen that the Nexus is being sold at a loss.
     
  7. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    I imagine the lack of SD-card is for 3 reasons - space, cost, and also because Google are desperate to promote their cloud/store.
     
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  8. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Oh and they are also more likely to make a tiny bit of profit/less loss on the version with larger storage capacity.
     
  9. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    Plenty of sub £100 phones take micro SD...I don't think it's unreasonable to have a moan when it gets left out.

    I think this is more to point.
     
  10. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet ammonia snooker balls

    Maybe they feel that the evidence is that people really don't care much about SD slots or removable batteries when considering which tablet to buy.
     
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  11. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    If they used iPad sales as their evidence then yes :D
     
  12. mincepie

    mincepie Everday lurker!

    It's all about getting you hooked on the cloud. Phones needed storage for taking photos, and music on the go where you might not have wifi - park, bus etc.
    In my case (anyways) it's likely that most of the places I would use a tablet I would have wifi - So i could 'speak' to the cloud. If i would want to...that's another matter.
    There is still the rather clunky USB on the go for extra storage.

    Given it's cheap ish price it's very tempting. I don't really feel I need one that much tho...but that's another story.
     
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  13. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 Least LA person in LA

    No SD initially bothered me when I bought the Galaxy Nexus phone, but to be honest, so long as you have a few gigs of space for immediacy storage (16 is plenty) - having cloud based stuff is the way to go. I was also a bit peeved about the lack of 3Gon the Nexus 7 but on second thoughts, I'm rarely without my phone so when you can just create a wifi hotspot your phone's 3G - it's a non issue.
     
  14. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    Depends on what you use your phone for....I quite like having lots of music on me and can't depend on cloud services where I normally am as they just aren't there!

    One thing I'd like a tablet for is to keep all the UK maps on, which would eat the 16gb without leaving any left over, although I'm aware this a quite specialist requirement.
     
  15. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet ammonia snooker balls

    SD makes no difference. What does is the lack of 3G.
     
  16. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    Much as I'd love 3g on a tablet, I'm loathed to set up another contract for it when I already get data on my phone.
     
  17. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet ammonia snooker balls

    I really don't want to have to get out and fiddle with my phone every time I want net access on a tablet. It takes away the whole point of a mobile device.
     
  18. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    Nor do I really, but then I don't earn enough to justify an ipad for what I'd use it for and the same applies for second contracts. :(
     
  19. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 Least LA person in LA

    I'd love to get rid of my iPod classic and have all my tunes on my phone but my MP3 collection is too big, and it'd probably eat my battery. I do use TuneIn Radio and Spotify apps a lot instead. GiffGaff in London, T-Mobile unlimited data plan in Los Angeles. Both are pretty reliable in the city but useless when you're out in the sticks I agree.
     
  20. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet ammonia snooker balls

    Well, don't get one then. But from my experience, a tablet without built in 3G is basically crap. Part of the point of them is that they're always available - always on, always on the net.
     
  21. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 Least LA person in LA

    It's just a matter of setting 'wifi hotspot' to active on your phone. It takes two seconds and I do it all the time. Sod getting a separate 3G contract just for a tablet.
     
  22. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    Playing music on phones is surprisingly battery friendly compared to most other tasks and I mostly use it the car so have a charger to hand. I can't get the whole lot on there, but a 32gb card gives me a good selection with space for other stuff.

    I'm living in the Edale valley and have to drive to get phone reception, so I guess that counts as the sticks. :D
     
  23. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet ammonia snooker balls

    For which I have to pay extra with O2. Also, I have to have my phone with me and on whenever I want to want to use the tablet.
     
  24. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    I'd kind of hoped that my post about using maps was showing people had different uses for tablets to you, but never mind. :rolleyes:
     
  25. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet ammonia snooker balls

    I have no idea what post that was.
     
  26. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 Least LA person in LA

    I tether all the time and don't pay any extra. Also, having my phone near me and on isn't usually a problem because it nearly always is.
     
  27. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    It was the one 5 posts up. I think that a tablet would make a brilliant map viewer and planner.

    Slight derail, but I do think if low cost tablets want to succeed then addressing 3g is an issue. I'm sure there are loads of people who haven't bought a 3g tablet as they are an expensive toy, but when the price drops are game, but don't want the recurring monthly costs. I pay for a 1gb a month, why should it matter how I use it? I'm willing to pay a few quid extra, but beyond that, forget it.
     
  28. Global Stoner

    Global Stoner baseline neural therapy

    My only slight issue with this is battery life, rather then convenience.
     
  29. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 Least LA person in LA

    Is is a bit more of a drain for sure, but I think it's negligible actually because I think the screen uses far more battery on a phone than a wifi hotspot does so if you're substituting your phone screen for your tablet screen, it's not a major deal.
     
  30. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    I don't think its anything like negligible, its quite noticeable. But I've had a number of tablets now and none of them have had 3G and Im fine with that, presently use my Galaxy Nexus as a hotspot.
     

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