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George IV/Music Bar at 144 Brixton Hill closing as another Tesco comes to Brixton

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by quimcunx, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    I've not had one yet :hmm:
  2. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    I was wondering if it was because I'm a shareholder* but they didn't put my name on there.




















    *one share for protest purposes you understand.
  3. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke



    Of course it is
  4. leanderman

    leanderman Tired

    I object on the grounds that the Tulse Hill parade needs such a store much more, if only for the purposes of me picnicing properly in the park
  5. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    I don't think there has been a planning application yet.

    On the change of use, the "deregulation" of planning back under John Prescott in 2005 means that changes from pub to shop use now don't need planning permission as it is classed as it is now "permitted development".

    Which means that ever since then Tesco have been buying up loads of pubs trading at the margin from debt-laden "PubCos" who are happy to get a cash buyer.
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  6. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    We've not had a letter either, also just behind Tudor close.

    Quimmy, do you want the details of our local councillor who was very reactive/supportive of our planning problems and other issues in the area
  7. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    Yeah, I thought it was probably a case of the use being covered anyway. Pubs and shops are very different though.


    Christ I hate Tesco.

    Even if I do go there about twice a year. :oops:
  8. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils


    go on then. It's me though. I'm not very proactive. I know I got the letter but this affects lots of you. :hmm:
  9. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    The George IV is inside the Rush Common and Brixton Hill Conservation Area.




    So I think there has to be a conservation area consent application. It would be worth objecting to every change that Tesco want to make to the building, including removing the original signage, any closing in of windows, changes to door locations, on the grounds that it would harm the character of the conservation area.
  10. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    Gosh, Tesco never mentioned that in the letter.
  11. Rushy

    Rushy Wiggly.

    Is there such a thing as a conservation area consent application?
    Just a normal planning application with conservation area status as a consideration, I thought.
    Unless it is listed, in which case it requires listed building consent.
    It is not on Rush Common so won't need Rush Common consent.
    Happy to be corrected if this is wrong...
  12. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke


    As it seems you are one of the few people to have received the letter, I reckon you should photocopy it a few thousand times and deliver it locally :D
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  13. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    It's occurred to me that The Telegraph is also within the Conservation Area, and whilst the exterior seems to be pretty uch the same (although I can't remember whtether the signage is there), not sure about the interior, now it's a churchy-type place
  14. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    I'm getting a bit para about it.
  15. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    why? :hmm:

    That they targetted you? :D
  16. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    Why MEEEEEEEEEE?!!!!

    Has someone else received the letter?
  17. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    Because you're a shareholder :hmm:

    I see Brixton Blog are asking for bands that played them to contact them.

    Why don't they contact the bands themselves?

    Here's two well known bands that played there occasionally: Top Cats and Alabama 3

    How about comedians? You could ask Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand, Jack Dee etc. as they all used to perform there as well when the Comedy Pit night ran
  18. leanderman

    leanderman Tired

    Next to fall, I suspect, will be CarpetRight-Topps Tiles on Tulse Hill-Water Lane.

    Just saw three 'suits' sizing up the car park and store frontage in a very suspicious way.
  19. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    You are probably right.

    The main planning application is likely to be for the changes to the parking layout.

    However, conservation area consent is required to:
    • Demolish a building with a volume of greater than 115 cubic metres.
    • Demolish a wall, fence, gate or railing over 1 metre in height next to a highway (including a public footpath or bridleway) or public open space; or over 2 metres in height elsewhere.
    So even though the current boundary walls around the George IV's former beer garden are barely a decade old, I suspect CA consent is needed for any replacement/new openings for vehicle entries.

    Also, I think any new Tesco signage may require a separate "Advertisement consent" because it is within a conservation area.
  20. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

  21. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    Because they don't know who the bands are??? :hmm:
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  22. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    Am I still the only person who has had a letter about this?
  23. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    I've still not received anything.
  24. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    Quimmy is privileged and we're not :(
  25. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    I'm not the only one to get a letter!
  26. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    Who else has?
  27. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    My neighbour. So presumably all my neighbours.

    I don't need to be paranoid! Yay!
  28. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    What about your neighbours in the next block of flats?
  29. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    They don't count.
  30. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx purves grundy - definitely a bloke

    Is that because they're peasants? :hmm:

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