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Gay Superheroes

Discussion in 'books, films, TV, radio & writing' started by biggus dickus, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater

    I've just been wondering, have they changed the Green Lanterns mannerisms etc. at all, I seem to remember from another thread someone mentioning one of the obstacles for people coming out was that their friends thought they would change as a person, will the green lantern still be the same person he was or will he develop 'gay characteristics' (I'm not sure how to say that, it's not meant in an offensive way if it comes across as offensive then I apologise). Could this move help reinforce an obstacle to people coming out as well as help normalise homosexuality in society?
  2. Reno

    Reno The In Kraut

    Are you suggesting the Green Lantern is going to mince through the universe and flap around a limp wrist ? :facepalm:
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  3. biggus dickus

    biggus dickus what a dork! Banned


    What sort of ridiculous stupid shit is this?

    What the fuck are you even talking about? what major comic book buying demographic of where has been 15-25 year olds and what sort of 15-25 year olds and how do you know that? Do you realise how much comic book demographics have changed in the last 20 years?

    I'd bet Pandas to Pigeons that you just made that up based on your imagination. Just shut the fuck up
  4. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater

    Well thats what I'm asking, will they make him a camp stereotype to reinforce the fact that he is now gay or will he just be the Green Lantern with a boyfriend, or will it be somewhere between the two. Having a gay character is a great step forward, I'm interested to know if you think how Green Lantern being gay is portrayed could change how you view this move, whether for the better or worse?
  5. killer b

    killer b Oh Yeah Baby

    Have you ever been in a comics shop?
  6. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    And to think you accused me of being pompous! :D

    The general market for Marvel and DC titles, as we're talking about superheroes, Brainiac.

    Who knows "what sort", you arse? Demographics surveys don't ask "are you a nerd, a geek or a jock", they ask your age and where you live, so that they can then use a system like ACORN to work out your socio-economic class and spending power.

    I know how much they haven't changed.

    Yes, because anything that contradicts you has to be "made up", doesn't it? :facepalm:

    Stop posturing, there's a good fellow. :)

    How often to you buy comics in the UK or USA (the two biggest markets for Marvel and DC)?Is the shop you use (if you actually do buy comics at all) full of kids, or is it full of "young adults" or, even worse adults?
    And yeah, I mentioned the demographics over the last 20 years. The readership used to be younger, especially when you had Marvel UK producing fuck knows what piece of black and white crap every week. Now the readership is older, in line with the fact that comics aren't exactly cheap anymore.
  7. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    You realise that a lot of "mannerisms" are camp rather than gay, and that "camp" and "gay" aren't the same thing, right? :)
    I don'tt think you're going to have to worry about Green Lantern losing his current outfit for green leather 'n' studs, and a handlebar moustache. :facepalm:
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  8. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    I shouldn't laugh, but :D
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  9. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    His post does make me wonder.Still, he seems to want to have a pop at me because I was beastly about Ninjaboy the other day, so he's probably doing his usual thing of making up any old shit and spewing it out. ;)
  10. biggus dickus

    biggus dickus what a dork! Banned

    They have been selling comics in bookshops and on the internet for at least the last 10 years

    What is it based on?
  11. Sweet FA

    Sweet FA ✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪

    The Green Lantern won't be able to look up any more :(
  12. Reno

    Reno The In Kraut

    We've been there before on other threads TM. The vast majority of gay men aren't camp stereotypes, so I'd doubt they are going to make the Green Lantern into one. I don't read a lot of comics, but when Willow on Buffy came out as gay, she didn't become a butch, truck driving diesel dyke, she stayed basically the same, just like most gay people do.
  13. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater


    Yeah I do know that, of course there isn't a defined 'gay characteristic' but thats why I'm wondering how they will handle this change. There are thousands of directions they could take his character, or just keep it the same but with a boyfriend instead of a girlfriend, and if DC do revert to lazy stereotyping is it possible that more harm than good could come out of this.
  14. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!



    The same things that it's always been based on: supplier information; cross-referencing of sales with area; subscription demographics and readership surveys. How do you think any publication gets demographic data?
    BTW, 'net sales are still a minor deal compared to retail through newsagents and specialist outlets.
  15. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    aye 20 years ago virgins where buying comics


    the same ones I think
  16. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater

    I realise that, I'm just thinking of a 'what if' scenario and thought I'd get your insight into it.
  17. biggus dickus

    biggus dickus what a dork! Banned

    I was actually just pulling you up on talking some utter clueless shit.

    I put it to you that you have fuck all idea about the major comic book buying demographic of the past 20 years and just made that up there and then.
  18. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    I think that DC went into this after getting themselves well-informed on the subject. They wouldn't have written this into the Green Lantern canon unless they thought that they could do things with it in the story arc that didn't involve doing Dick Emery impersonations.
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  19. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    [​IMG]
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  20. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater

    I don't doubt that.
  21. killer b

    killer b Oh Yeah Baby

    lol
  22. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    No, you were "pulling me up" because you saw an opportunity to have a pop, dew-drop.

    Try as you might to get the ern-style internet bully bit down pat, you haven't got the stones to pull it off. :)

    I don't need to make anything up. Let google be your friend. Look up Marvel and DC's own demographics info. It's you who has fuck all idea, Ninj.
    That's because you're a gobshite. :)
  23. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet ammonia snooker balls

    One problem with the whole thing is that, while you may get gay people in comics nowadays, the general attitude to sexuality and gender politics in the writing remains quite unenlightened. After coming out, Green Lantern needs to watch out for being raped or nearly raped if he gets a writer who wants to be, you know, a bit edgy. Because teh gays are honorary women of course, who also get raped occasionally to make a plot point, though amazingly straight men don't. This even happened to Apollo in The Authority.
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  24. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater

    Basically this was what I was trying to get at but put in a much better way.
  25. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Well, women in comics, y'know, all that tight lycra, mini-skirts and hot-pants. Got to be askin' for it, innit?
    I still remember doing a massive facepalm back in the late '80s when Marvel did a "cheesecake" set of She-Hulk posters. :)
    TBF, I preferred the old days in comics, when characters just beat or shot the shit out of each other. Life was simpler then - you knew that Frank Castle would kill about 90% of the gangsters who crossed his path, and that the thought of womenfolk wouldn't cross his vengeance-filled mind; that Angarr the Screamer might have been a hippy, but that he was more concerned with wasting Daredevil than scoring with the chicks; that Cyclops might be sappy about Marvel Girl, but that he'd never let that get in the way of blowing the side of a mountain off with his eyebeam.
  26. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Gives a whole new meaning to "Hulk smash!!", that does! :eek:
  27. biggus dickus

    biggus dickus what a dork! Banned

    Why don't you post up the statistics then? I'm not going to go and do research for your attention seeking. I'm away to bed because I've been sucked into your vortex of unimportant shite. Other people are actually chatting away on this very thread about what I wanted to talk about but I'm a bit drunk and feel the need to reply to your pathetic little games

    But guess what, tomorrow I'll be sober and if I am bored I can take up this conversation with people who aren't sad housebound idiots, you don't have that luxury. You don't even realise, getting constant pity likes is your hobby lol
  28. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Thanks for posting that, Ninj. Just confirms what a small-minded vindictive little prick you are! Off you jog. :D :D
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  29. Termite Man

    Termite Man zombie flesh eater

    thats really out of order.
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  30. killer b

    killer b Oh Yeah Baby

    Christ. You're a fucking joke nb.
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