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Brixton is a village and local businesses need to ensure they are engaged with the local community.

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Lee Japser, Jul 14, 2012.

  1. Ted Striker

    Ted Striker Foot's on the other hand

    As a rank outsider, the whole blackmail route (for that is what it is) is frankly outrageous. If that doesn't ring alarm bells with anyone thinking of getting into bed with such a shady operator, then nothing will.

    In the end it will be more decisive as often the "he who shouts loudest" message will split and detract from the good causes that need to benefit from such schemes.
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  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    some good would come of it then
  3. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    the company we used to work with got one of out web design students a webdesing apprenticship in a resturant.

    the scary thing was it was one of the best as he got a booth with free internet and lunches on the house.
  4. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    From Brixton Splash web site

    Food Court -- Cost per pitch size:
    £450 – 6m x 3m pitch size
    £350 – 3m x 3m pitch size
    £250 – 3m x 3m pitch size, soft drinks only
    £300 – Ice cream van pitch
    Exhibitors/Info - Cost per stall:
    £110 – 14’ x 7’ stall size
    £75 – 7’ x 7’ stall size
    £50 - 7’ x 7’ stall size Registered Charities
    • Thank You to our Supporters:

      Jamaican National, Lambeth Community Fund, The Metropolitan Police, MacDonalds, The Electric Social, Satay Bar, Deli Jerk, The Voice, South London Press and Vibes FM.
      There is no mention of H&M - Boots - The Phone Companies - Morleys - TX Max - Currys - Halfords
      The website Twitter and Facebook links aren't working
      It looks like they haven't got themselves as well organised as they might . . . .
  5. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    Care to spell it out? Are you referring to the largely unproven accusations of the Evening Standard that were since rebuked.

    I've always enjoyed Brixton splash but I do hope it doesn't lead into another riot. It was of course all peaceful last year until well after the music stopped.
  6. quimcunx

    quimcunx Trumper Tantrum

    Brixton splash didn't 'lead to another riot'.

    And I don't really understand why you're bringing it up in this context.
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  7. Lee Japser

    Lee Japser Active Member

    In response to some of the more serious comments above.

    The general culture of UK private sector engagement with community organisations is poor throughout the UK.

    It is important to say that we have had a good level of local business support and I am pleased to say more are expressing an interest and coming on board. But it could and should be better.

    Our particular local difficulty relates not to our overall approach or offer, as I explain below. This reluctance reflects the general disinclination of some businesses to support community groups. The reality is some of Brixton’s business have never or sponsored or supported local community organisations and that needs to change .

    This is critically important particularly at time of austerity cuts where business need to reassess their added value in an increasingly competitive market and the extent to which they are seen to be embedded and supportive in the wider local community of Brixton.

    Brixton Splash intends to spark that debate by simply educating local consumers and promoting those business that demonstrate their commitment to local community initiatives not just in regards to Splash but their charitable work across the board.

    In the autumn we will be holding public debate about these issues in order to raise general awareness about the potential for local business to help address working in partnership with the many local community groups and charities seeking to tackle the burgeoning social and economic issues facing communities in Lambeth.

    Yes business are struggling which is why we are proud that Brixton Splash brings so much additional income to local businesses . However it is to be remembered that customers and their families with some of the highest levels of unemployment and deprivation are also struggling.

    Another important point is that Brixton Splash not only asked business to consider financial support. We also requested alternative help in kind for those business who were unable to support by way of sponsorsphip. In particular we asked for support for young people seeking local employment, secondment or mentor opportunities for unemployed young people wanting to start a business. This gave maximum flexibility to small business to think creatively about their contribution in kind which is often more valuable than a cash sponsor in the longer term.

    In any event common courtesy suggests that when a businesses receives such a request that they at least respond whatever their decision.

    We think it is increasingly important that the local community can make informed choices about where and with whom they choose to spend their money . Shopper are increasing sophisticated and now consider factors such as ethical sourcing of goods and environmental issues when making choices. Social responsibility of local business is a legitimate concern and one that will become increasingly important for customers.

    The point here is that we believe that all business could contribute something, in whatever way best suits them, toward tackling the serious social problems that are becoming acute in areas like Brixton. That is not the case currently with some business and we believe that has to change if we are to promote the development of cohesive communities and thriving local economies.
  8. tufty79

    tufty79 1979-2015. R.I.P.

    and they can't even spell their sponsor's name right :facepalm:
    or use spellcheck on the body of their post.
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  9. Rushy

    Rushy igam ogam

    I thought it was getting a little unsettled around Windrush Square and a couple of the sound systems in the last hour before everything finished at 7. I went home about 5 and came out again at 6 and the vibe had definitely changed. Much more testosteroney, for want of a better description, and looked like some 'steaming' was going on.
  10. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    i think we need to go about separating the general issue of business' interaction with the community with brixtons splash's particular lack of response.

    i can imagine many businesses would be disinclined to buy into a third party's conception of comunity interaction especially if it does not synch with their ideas of what the comunity needs
  11. boohoo

    boohoo Champion Buggy Pusher

    That's seems to be normal at large gatherings. I think if there had not been rioting in north London, there would not have been rioting across the country.
  12. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    I said "lead into" not lead to, I was just raising concerns of violence during the summer hols again generally. Wasn't trying to make a direct connection, apologies.
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  13. Rushy

    Rushy igam ogam

    And there we have it. It's everyone else's fault.
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  14. Rushy

    Rushy igam ogam

    I was responding to DJWS's comment that it was all peaceful until after the music stopped. I didn't think it was entirely. I'm not relating that to the later riots.
  15. biggus dickus

    biggus dickus what a dork! Banned

    Brixton just isn't a village in any sense of the word
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  16. quimcunx

    quimcunx Trumper Tantrum

    This is also true.
  17. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    yeah. are shop owner members of the community already? do they not already employ from the local populace? do they have a business community?

    for most small businesses they already have a community presence. they are not faceless coperations manned by people from outside the local area.
  18. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    I'm curious about the http://www.brixtonsplash.org/ website design
    The designer http://creationz.co.uk/ have a working link from every page, quite a prominent link. They are a company based out in Harlow, one would think there might be a local webdesigner who they could pay in Brixton Pounds or perhaps in kind.
    The sponsors logo are all links that don't go anywhere. The Download a Sponsorship Pack gives no indication that it is a link until the cursor reaches it.
    The sponsorship pack gives no indication of what sort of money they are looking for.
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  19. well, it's not surrounded by fields and open countryside, but it's still a relatively small area home to a community where people know each other and are clustered around a 'centre'. Not really worth arguing about semantics here tbh.
  20. biggus dickus

    biggus dickus what a dork! Banned

    It isn't worth arguing because it's such a stupid thing to say

    It isn't a village. Brixton is not an egg, a hat, an animal, a vegetable, a mineral, or a village
  21. Lee Japser

    Lee Japser Active Member

    Ted Strikers comments are
    Your comments are risible and frankly conform to a racial stereotype . Of course all black men in Brixton are ' shady operators" and engaged in "blackmail". Whilst such comments are outrageous unfortunately being black and living in Brixton we are used to such inane drivel posed as serious commentary.
  22. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    bit early for the race card
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  23. tufty79

    tufty79 1979-2015. R.I.P.

    OP: are you actually Lee Jasper?
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  24. here we go....
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  25. Rushy

    Rushy igam ogam

    And here comes the race card.
    Surprised it took so long.
  26. Lee Japser

    Lee Japser Active Member

    The thread of the discussion is local business engagement with local community organisations. It is interesting that debate now seems to be focussing on " riots".
  27. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    it was all going so well...

    do we need a racial equivalent of a godwin's?
  28. tufty79

    tufty79 1979-2015. R.I.P.

    just in case you missed it :hmm:
  29. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    I've just bought some popcorn in preparation for this thread...
  30. Lee Japser

    Lee Japser Active Member

    We are pushing for a debate on the issues . Play the ball not the man.
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