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Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'books, films, TV, radio & writing' started by dogmatique, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. Picadilly Commando

    Picadilly Commando Missing the C Banned

    Aahh good. I thought it still had life in it.

    I really hate Hank's wife. I hope she ends up in a bucket of acid.
  2. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Cat Herder

    she's kind of sweet. she loves her family and wants to protect them.
  3. Reno

    Reno The In Kraut

    She's a bit fucked up, but I feel sorry for Marie. Despite some personal issues, she is endlessly supportive of her now disabled husband and he treats her like shit.
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  4. Picadilly Commando

    Picadilly Commando Missing the C Banned

    She only wants to protect them because they protect her.

    I like the way she gets more and more obsessed with purple the more stressed her life becomes.

    But no. I don't like her. Very superficial.
  5. Reno

    Reno The In Kraut

    It seems obvious to me that she genuinely loves her husband and her family. That's what makes her a tragic character and more complex then the caricature a lesser show would make of her.
  6. Structaural

    Structaural in Chatsubo

    Funny how the women get the hate in this series of psychopathic and fucked up males.
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  7. elevendayempire

    elevendayempire Registered Loofah

    Watched the first episode, liked it. Is it worth persevering?
  8. Gmart

    Gmart Well-Known Member

    Absolutely, one of the best series on TV :)
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  9. Structaural

    Structaural in Chatsubo

    Spoilers, Breaking Bad in 5 mins:

  10. Reno

    Reno The In Kraut

    You bet. It starts out a little slow wit the first few episodes, introducing characters and setting up situations, so stick with it.
  11. Picadilly Commando

    Picadilly Commando Missing the C Banned

    That was both pointless and shit. Not to mention really badly done.
  12. Structaural

    Structaural in Chatsubo

    I hope you watched it until the end.
  13. Voley

    Voley "Dave From Ireland"

    Just started watching this so haven't read the thread so I don't ruin it for myself.

    First impressions: reminds me of Coen brothers a bit, some very funny bits (the wanking/Ebay bit was really good), really like the fish-out-of-water main man a lot and am intrigued by the plot so far. Only watched two episodes but will be watching a lot more. :)
  14. Picadilly Commando

    Picadilly Commando Missing the C Banned

    Yeah, I just didn't like it. I am sure plenty of people did, it's just not my thing.

    Managed to get my 80 odd year old grandfather into BB last week. He's quite 'cool' in that respect, reads loads of John Connely novels and loves The Wire too,,, which I find amazing because many people of his generation would instantly be put off my the profanity and the idiom of the dialogue.
  15. PlaidDragon

    PlaidDragon We don't need money to have a good time

  16. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    precisely because the entertainment comes from the fucked up things. Marie is actually a lot more interesting than Skylar because of her fucked up'ness, Skylar is written as a nag, sure, quite a reasonable one, but her lack of character and specifically flaws leads her to be boring as fuck and a drag on the plot development, the few times she's been interesting are when the writers move her out of the concerned responsible dull matriarch role and have her make fuck ups ie the loan to her boss etc.
  17. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Cat Herder

    nah, you just hate women
  18. Reno

    Reno The In Kraut

    I find Skylar and an interesting and complex character. Maybe it's because you don't really pay much attention to her, because she's a woman. She has flaws of her own as becomes increasingly evident as the series goes on, though like with all characters they make you understand why she starts making the wrong moral choices.
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  19. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    read the bit where I say that Skylar can be interesting when they do move on to her flaws and fuck ups. But the simple fact is that for the majority of show Skylars character acted as a drag on the plot development and she really got annoying when she started going all OCD about the fucking stupid car wash cover story.
  20. Reno

    Reno The In Kraut

    That's the thing though, she didn't go OCD at all, she was perfectly in the right. Walter keeps fucking up, increasingly putting his family at risk and she is doing her best to save them. Only men who have no understanding of many women's innate pragmatism in situations of crisis would find her a "drag". She is constantly cleaning up after Walter, while he keeps putting his ego and arrogance above the safety of his family. He was also a complete idiot for buying his son a flashy sport car drawing attention to their finances but you probably also found her objections there a "drag", because hey, red, flashy sports cars are 'badass' !
  21. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Cat Herder

    It's interesting how female characters are being judged far more harshly than a meth cook who has murdered rivals, bombed an old people's home, killed his deputy's girlfriend by failing to intervene when she ODd, and poisoned an innocent child.
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  22. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Cat Herder

    But never mind all that! His wife and sister in law are insufferable nagging bitches!
  23. twistedAM

    twistedAM Left Of The Dial

    I guess people just developed a thirst for action and are disappointed that neither Skylar or Marie have killed anyone yet.
    I like the Skylar character. She's a tough matriarch at heart but it all went wrong when the meth lab opened and she's trying to hold her extended family together.
  24. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Cat Herder

    Let's see what happens in the final series! I wouldn't put it past either Marie or Skylar to do whatever it takes to protect their loved ones
  25. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    That's the thing I don't watch the program for banal family dramas, you watch it for the exciting stuff, the cartels, the cops etc The family stuff whilst of course important in character development and giving context to Walt's "breaking bad" and the playing out of his own ego driven issues, just simply isn't as exciting, which rather brilliantly has the effect of putting the viewer in the same position of Walt, who has been seduced by "breaking bad".

    Basically well intentioned, pragmatic and responsible mum just isn't as exciting or interesting as meth cooks and cartel bosses or for that matter her crazy purple loving klepto sister.
  26. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    yes I think considering how things ended with Skylars old boss, we might start seeing a more interesting development with her character.
  27. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    If we are judging it on morality, then fair enough, but we are talking about interesting characters in a tv show. Dirty Den from Eastenders was a total shitbag but everyone remembers his character whilst not really giving a shit about some nice but banal one.

    And please get off your try hard male feminst hobby hose you clown, if you were actually clever you'd maybe take issue of how writers of Breaking Bad have never really given the female characters material that extends beyond traditional female roles, left as they are to the boredom of the private sphere whilst the male characters get to wreck havoc on the public one.
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  28. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Cat Herder

    I think what's interesting about breaking bad is that it's more than just criminals shooting each other. It IS a family drama as well as a thriller.
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  29. twistedAM

    twistedAM Left Of The Dial

    I see what you mean but if you think about it the timeline of the first four series is just a year or so: therefore Walt isn't your ordinary career Sopranoesque villain, he's a school teacher whose gone over to the dark side very recently. His family (and that includes Marie and Hank) are the reason he got into it all and seemingly, until he got into the chess game with Gus, were a brake on his behaviour.

    He's got issues and struggles that normal TV baddies don't have and that's what makes BB so interesting. I love all the guns, gangsters and cartels stories as much as you do but you keep getting this feeling that walt's downfall will come from within his family. The latter idea is not as glamorous to the viewer but it's what keeps the tension going so much.
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  30. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Cat Herder

    skylar and marie ARE interesting, complex characters - I just don't get why people don't find them interesting just cos they haven't killed anyone yet
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