Apple iPhone

Me same. I don't quite use the mins on the (old) £45 rate, so the £35 tariff would suit me fine.

If you enquire/do it soon... please post back to say you got on. (My distrust for telcos makes me think there will be probs downgrading, but I hope not.)

Just heard that UK Iphone users are going to get three times as much "free" calls and texts - the reason is NOT that the iphone isnt selling as well as expect, say o2

Let's face it - making the tariffs more attractive does at least show it's worth complaining if the price ain't right. The call allowances before were pretty rubbish. Now they are better.

Right now we have
Web apps for iPhone - check, supported
Apps for iPhone - SDK this month
Better tariffs - check
Cheaper phone? Perhaps later this month, most likely later this year when the 3G model ships and the old version gets a discount.

Yep and the amusing irony is that some of this is helped by the iBacklash brigade who just love to tell Apple what they've done wrong!

I'm talking about the complaints generally on the net about the lack of features.

Apple must love it; its free focus grouping and all they have to do is pick the points that get the most noise and announce it to the faithful as new features and their core consumers are happy (and shareholders laughing).

The iBacklash brigade play an important role even if they are essentially working for Apple.

Huge irony from where I sit that.

Unlikely. Firstly, Apple (as do many other companies, large or small) have a policy of not interacting on non-company user-forums. Secondly, geeks who sit around on discussion boards aren't the target market for this product... Finally, using properly conducted focus groups allows you a degree of comeback if you get it all wrong...

Nope but I think the people that spend their time bitching endlessly or the faithful who lap up the Apple love at every opportunity are.

16GB iPhone to launch?

The iPhone is slowly edging toward something I'd consider buying...but 1.30pm has passed and nothing on the O2 site....

16 Gb iPhone + 32 Gb Touch on the US Apple Store. (But not on the UK store). They must be waiting for approval from the EU on these...

*sigh* You can bu... Nope. Can't be arsed to go through this for the n-th time.

It's official: http://www.apple.com/iphone/

I said slowly edges, it's not there yet by a long shot (I want at least 32gbs, 3G, no more than £200, and a 12 month contract, figure that'll be about another 24 months before that happens)...

I'm guessing someone didn't get out of bed on the correct side today...?

Why not...? Unless it was for an IPhone you'd be able to use whichever phone you wanted...

Yep, but you can upgrade the phone independently at any time... Monthly charges are usually lower for 18 month contracts...

They're not lower for this phone though are they?

Again it depends on different deals, and where you get your phone from, etc (eg Ebay)... Plus it gives good leverage when you want a better deal from your phone company...

Sure, hence my criteria for owning one.

Why does this thread go on for 69 pages?

With the same for/against arguments being regurgitated again and again?

edit: This is exactly the what Apple want I guess. They probably held back the features just so that people would talk about it over and over again on message boards, blogs etc

Depending on the deal + provider... And yes, I have looked into this previously... If you're not convinced then do the math yourself...

I pointed this out in post #5532...