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Amanda Knox Is Innocent

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by phildwyer, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    Oh please, the knife is the single most incompetent part of this entire case. So the cops turn up and find a murder by stabbing. So what do they do. Do they carefully collect every single knife or stabbing instrument, scissors, letter openers, etc in the house, carefully bag them and then run a dna test on all of them to find the weapon.
    NO
    They leave all the knives in the house, cross the road, go to Sollecito's apartment, take one random kitchen knife because their "Intuition tells them its the right one. The only knife they take. and test that one, only that one and then find Amanda's DNA on the handle and claim Meredith's dna is on the blade. Wow, what incredible luck. Just think, of all the knives they don't bother to even take they miraculously find that the one random knife they do take is the murder weapon. Incredible. Except of course it was bollocks. The knife had no blood on it. The positive for dna was so infinitismally small as to be conveniently too small for retesting and then we find the knife didn't even match the wounds.

    Which of course is why the forensic evidence around the knife is one of the key reasons the case was thrown out by the appeal court.
  2. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    No.
    If there was there might have been a conviction. Anyway whos to say that knox couldn't have touched her flatmate?

    It's simply the fact that the forensic evidence shows that she was held down as she was raped and cut. It could not have been a one man job and the marks show it wasn't.
  3. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Yes the only knife that could have inflicted such wounds.
    Don't forget that Sollecito also said he had cut Meredith with that knife by mistake at a dinner party and that's why traces of DNA were found on it.
  4. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Who says the trace evidence of Guede's presence was "all" left untouched? You're reaching. :)

    Well, while what you say is true of DNA, it's not true of all trace evidence, is it?

    See above.

    The scenario you present is obviously more likely.

    That doesn't, however, mean it's an accurate representation, unless you're a bonehead, though, it merely makes it a strong possibility with a strong probability.

    I'm playing devils' advocate here. We seem to have two sets of views that are almost polar opposites, two sides where people appear to have preconceived positions from which they're unwilling to budge, some informed, others less so (yes, I'm talking about the couple of posters who appear to have bought their "arguments" wholesale from US media coverage).
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  5. phildwyer

    phildwyer Gorau arf arf dysg

    No, more's the pity.
  6. HumanFrailty

    HumanFrailty JoshuaReed

    It's irrelevant what Sollecito said. The police bullied him until he made some sort of admission.

    What forensic evidence? Please lay out how the forensic evidence suggests that she was held down..
  7. Miss Caphat

    Miss Caphat I want it that way

    The knife has been found to be too large to have inflicted the wounds.
  8. Fedayn

    Fedayn Diffidati con noi

    It's not what there is but what there isn't. There seems to be an absence of any mention of defensive wiounds that are the result of the victim defending/tryinjg to defend themselves from knife attack. Most notably well established forensic evidence of wounds on hands, forearms and wrists inflicted as a result of the victim putting their hands up to defend themselves from the knife.
  9. HumanFrailty

    HumanFrailty JoshuaReed

    That would only mean she was subdued prior to being stabbed.
  10. Fedayn

    Fedayn Diffidati con noi

    How? Where is your evidence?
  11. HumanFrailty

    HumanFrailty JoshuaReed

  12. HumanFrailty

    HumanFrailty JoshuaReed

    Prosecutor Mignini also again stressed that he believed Knox to be the prime suspect because ''the body of Meredith Kercher was covered by a duvet and only a woman would want to cover another naked woman's body.''

    LOL, Mignini.. What a..
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  13. Fedayn

    Fedayn Diffidati con noi

  14. Fedayn

    Fedayn Diffidati con noi

    He more than anyone-if they are guilty-bears a lot of responsibility for their acquittal his appalling behaviour over the piece.
  15. Miss Caphat

    Miss Caphat I want it that way

    that's totally unfair and probably does not even justify a response.
    but I'll say on my part that
    a) I don't have t.v. so, was not influenced by that whatsoever
    b) when the case first came out, I remember my interest went as far as thinking "hmm, that sounds like an odd situation." and not much else.
    c) I have only recently begun looking into this, which is probably the reason why I ended up believing the not guilty verdict more than the guilty one, because the "newer" news showed up first in my searches and it wasn't clouded with an earlier preconceived notion of K&S's guilt.
    d) the sites I have read have been pretty equally US and UK based.
    e) I have no stake in assuming someone is innocent just because they are American, that is completely stupid.
  16. Yuwipi Woman

    Yuwipi Woman Whack-A-Mole Queen

    You know I really have no opinion of her guilt or innocence, but I can't let the idea that US media coverage is biased in her favor go without comment. In fact, I couldn't give a crap if she is or isn't guilty. It's already old news.

    Most of my news of this has come from British media and I recognize a hack job when I see it. Seriously, have you seen the photographs of Knox that appeared in your media? They're always taken a bit sideways, showing some kind of sly expression. That is in itself is inflamatory. If the US media is biased in this case, so is the British media.
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  17. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    Sorry but your reasoning is totally twisted. He's not responsible for the acquittal of two guilty people, he is responsible for the four year false imprisonment of two innocent people in furtherance of his absurd conspiracy theories. There is not a shred of evidence linking the couple to the murders. Not a shred. Blaming Mignini for the collapse of the prosecution case is like blaming the police who perjured themselves in the Guildford bombing case for the release of the Guildford 4. It is not the collapse of the case or the release of those convicted that is appalling, it is the fact that the false conviction occurred at all that is the tragedy
  18. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Why do you think I'm talking about you?
    You're hardly the only person who posted on this thread, and given that you can access the US media from anywhere in the world, why would you assume I was talking about an American?
  19. Fedayn

    Fedayn Diffidati con noi

    You having an even more stupid day that usual? Work it out. His behaviour has been appalling, what he's allowed has been appalling... As such i'm not surprised both were acquitted....
  20. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    I haven't said they aren't. I think the whole "Foxy Knoxy" schtick by the British press was disgusting, just as the reductive "American bad, black man bad, Italian man bad, British girl good" rubbish that was printed was, and the"won't someone think of the victims' parents" piousness currently being spouted by the UK media is.
  21. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    but you can't quite bring yourself to admit what is increasingly obvious can you. That they are innocent and that you bought half of his bullshit. Mug
  22. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    The prosecutor claims so, anyway.

    Then again, the man believes in witches and devil worship, so...
  23. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Personally I'd trust the path report over the prosecutor. A pathologist is going to be far more used to quantifying what is or isn't a defence wound than a prosecutor.
  24. Fedayn

    Fedayn Diffidati con noi

    No, i'm not l like you who claims to know 100% she is innocent... No doubt you'll tell us a story about one of your travels somewhere that proves it. There are inconsistencies, you just ignore them and go on a hissy fit scweaming like Vioplet Elizabeth Bott beacuse not everyone agwees with you....
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  25. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    good post. Your best yet. I was in Iran once and .......
  26. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    From a psychological perspective, it is more likely to have been a woman covering her than a man, but likelihood isn't quite the same as fact.
  27. Fedayn

    Fedayn Diffidati con noi

    A genuine lol amidst the arguments
  28. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    You're so very certain on the matter of guilt or innocence, and yet you have access to no more data than anyone else. Perhaps it's not just the prosecutor operating on the basis of an odd belief system? :p :D

    You don't know whether the convictions were false. You can't, you're simply weighing the evidence and then forming an opinion. To claim that you're right is an act of belief, not one born of rational appraisal, which would force you to admit that you don't know what happened and that there is a possibility that things aren't as you state.

    Really, shouldn't you know better at your age? :D
  29. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Perfectly Flawed

    You are right it is totally unfair to assume...Which is why when you posted this earlier in the thread:

    I thought you were implying exactly the same thing you are now taking offence to. It annoyed me , so I understand why you don't like others implying the same thing about you.
  30. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    It's the power of belief, I tells ya!
    For the righteous shall know the truth, and the non-righteous will see the innocent as guilty, and the guilty as innocent, and yea and verily will snakes devour our innards from the inside out for our crimes against St. Knox of Seattle!
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