Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

Oh wow, the t-shirt thing is going to run now - i see hordes of DG in their spear of destiny t-shirts..

I understand John Lydon is on#bbcqt tonight. He might be interested in the number of Sex Pistols tshirts on Greek immigrants at this rally.

A scary fascist encounter is already written up, before even leaving home i bet you. One of communal work in some old shop. One of no-future graduates. All done by t-shirt.

There ain't no future in Penny's dreaming

Join labour for the real face of your future.

...or sit on your arse with a bit of u75 meta-commentary. The truly radical position

Fantastic false opposition Paul. Be a labour stooge or do nothing. There are simply no other options.

You've spent two days talking non-stop about fuck all btw. As ever, you want it both ways.

Paul? You can be in Labour without being a Labour stooge.

No you can't.

that's a clincher

You're a labour activist. How is this hard to get your head around?

I've just read about this laurie penny for the first time, seems fucking bizarre her position considering her background. Can anyone explain the events/environment in the UK that has made her a "face of the new left"??

Activists are active in the party. My activism is outside

Even better. The logic of your external activism - join and vote labour. (your claim isn't true btw is it?)

no you can't.

Or, you can fuck off the thread with your assumptions of having anything in common with any person on here.

upper middle class networking. cool points. the independent ffs.

Almost entirely true

There we go.

doing what?

Like local anticuts stuff, attacking labour group on council

strange that you do that and then tell people to vote labour

Arguing people should join and vote labour.

When did I ever claim to have anything in common with cunts like you?

Fucking proud I don't tbh.

Not the thread for you then my little tory.

so you think everyone here's a cunt? top job, grit

Just people like you and butchers.

I don't, at local elections. I didn't myself.

you're a curious one. you've said things about yourself, which you contradict through other things you post. there's more to you than you'd like to let on. and none of it in a good way.

Just at the national ones then.

so why are you in the labour party when you don't give a stuff for it where you live?