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A Lost London Gem - Erno Goldfinger's Elephant & Castle Odeon

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by HackneyE9, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. HackneyE9 Well-Known Member

    Just found this on flickr:

    http://flickr.com/photos/oldcinemaphotos/sets/72157604100055610/

    The single-screen brutalist cinema was demolished over one weekend in 1988, just after it was announced it was to be listed on the Monday.

    I think it would by now - pace Trellick, the Barbican etc - be very much back in fashion. Although whether it would have survived as a single screen is a moot point - does listing get that detailed?

    Amazing photos courtesy of flickr - as far as I'm aware, there are very few of Goldfinger's Odeon. Certainly the main biography of him only has a b&w one of a wooden model for it, and then one group shot with Alexandra Fleming house.

    So well done to this snapper for getting the building before it went.

    Any U75 posters remember it? There was a vacant plot for 25 years next to the railway viaduct after it was knocked down, only recently filled by a bland as hell yuppie block of flats.
  2. PacificOcean Unhinged User

    What an ugly building. It's not like Elephant is short on those.

    I think the Elephant was lucky it was knocked down before it was listed.

    Why is it called the Coronet on some of those photos? That was/is across the road isn't it?
  3. Mitre10 50% more profanity inside

    Not the prettiest building ever I must say...

    Mr Goldfinger had some "different" ideas didn't he.
  4. marty21 this is important to me

    i like it, might have given me a reason to visit elephant a bit more
  5. ovaltina Well-Known Member

    I really like that building too, but then I like lost of 70s architecture including the Trellick Tower in Ladbroke Grove as well and that was build by the same chap.
  6. Belushi 01 811 8055

    I do remember it, fucking eyesore, glad its gone.
  7. Rollem two kinds of wonderful

    i remember it from wandering around elephant as a kid. never went in though
  8. hipipol BambaClaatElement

    I saw one of the Conan movies there cant remember which one, think I went two or three times in all, used to live nearby on the Pullens.
    I must say it didn't make any particular impression on me at the time

    NB I do recall it sat getting slowly derelict for ages - I only realised it had closed when they took the Odeon sign down
  9. blossie33 trailer trash

    I am a bit confused about this one?

    It looks like what is now the Coronet club at Elephant which I went to last year so it can't have been demolished.
  10. hipipol BambaClaatElement

    Twas opposite it on the other side of the road, they are building a block of flats there now
  11. blossie33 trailer trash

    Oh right, thanks :)
  12. quimcunx kit and caboodle

    I like those photos but suspect I would just find it depressing-looking if it were still there now.
  13. Onket is correct

    Marmite building.

    I like it.
  14. Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    I remember going to see Superman IV (yes I know) there. IIRC they had to delay the start of the film because so many people were waiting to see it.

    Is that not a cinema anymore? I saw Flash Gordon there, but when I went there last, in 1989, to see Star Trek V it was a right flea pit.
  15. lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    I'm already forwarding that hardcore brutalist pr0n link to various architectural aquaintances who are Goldfinger groupies.:D:D
  16. Gingerman muck savage

  17. HackneyE9 Well-Known Member

    Cheers. :)

    This thread sure brought the suburban philistines out of the woodwork. ;)
  18. 1927 Community Statesman

  19. brix spinster of this parish

    And similar to what Westminster Council are doing to Pimlico School. It would have come up for listing last month, so they started knocking it down over the Summer. This is them destroying the swimming pool.

    [IMG]


    There won't be a pool in the big bland box that will replace the loveit/hate it brutalist icon. The building that will replace it has also been described by the Commission for the Built Environment as "not fit for purpose".

    All very :(

    Love the Goldfinger Odeon building :cool: Wish I had seen it before it went.
  20. Taxamo Welf kebagels pls

  21. HackneyE9 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Brix. I also am gutted about the Pimlico school. As well as loving that era of architecture it used to make me almost physically laugh out loud when I passed it as what an incongrous 'fuck off' it was to all the white stucco architecture in Pimlico.

    A friend of mine was a pupil there in the 80s, and although she has the usual moans about it being freezing in winter and boiling in summer, she's distraught they've knocked it down too.
  22. HackneyE9 Well-Known Member

    In fact, since I see you started that thread on Berlin socialist architecture, I'm going to send you a PM. Only my fourth ever so feel suitable flattered! :)
  23. Divisive Cotton Vada a bordo, cazzo!

  24. brix spinster of this parish


    Thanks for the PM - I am, indeed, suitably flatted ;)

    It's completely gutting about Pimlico. I taught there for several years - and I applied for the job in the first place purely because of the building.

    It did have major problems as a building but plans did exist for a total refurbishment that would have smartened it up (and fixed years of neglect by Westminster fucking Council) AND fixed the problems (widened narrow corridors, special glass that would have stopped the solar gain, etc). The cost of that plan was £20 million.

    Instead Westminster have chosen to destroy the building (because, in my opinion, they saw it as a symbol of comprehensive education) and spend £35 million on the new building which is bland, bland, bland. And has been described as "not fit for purpose".

    People like Richard Rogers begged them not to do it but they went ahead.

    Incidentally the £35 million for the new building didn't come from them but from central government. Had they had to put their hands into their own pockets I don't think they would have destroyed the building. However much they hated it.

    Fuckers. I hate them :mad:
  25. HackneyE9 Well-Known Member

    I hadn't even realised it had a swimming pool - must be doubly heart-breaking for someone who actually worked there and loved the place.

    On a similar vein, are you aware of the imminent destruction of the Robin Hood Gardens' housing estate in Poplar?
  26. brix spinster of this parish


    Yes it had a pool. And with the 2012 Olympics coming up, what better time to raze it to the ground? :(

    Honestly, I can't even think about it without feeling absolutely furious!

    As to Robin Hood Gardens, yes I am aware. I was going to alert you to this thread (http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=242950&highlight=robin hood gardens), complete with great photos from teuchter. But then I realised that you'd posted on it so that would be pointless... :oops:
  27. Stoat Boy Well-Known Member

    Spent many a happy hour in that cinema as well as the one opposite. We would get a 63 bus up from Peckham.

    I suppose never really thought about what it looked like but seeing it with fresh eyes now then I guess it was an ugly building but as a kid that sort of thing just did not compute.

    Personally I am a fan of the Elephant even if its just from the POV of people watching and quite enjoy having a mooch around the second hand book shop on the ground level of the shopping centre.
  28. Onket is correct

    The cinema I used to go to as a kid is a Wetherspoons. :(
  29. HackneyE9 Well-Known Member

    The Wetherspoons I go to as an adult used to be a cinema
    :hmm:

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